My fury has engi / alchi maxed and gear for all specs, DH has herborism / mining maxed, the other two have engi / alchi too but not maxed, only for the phial buffs.
Like I said, professions aren’t super alt friendly yes but everything else is so it’s clearly not enough to say DF is not alt friendly just because of that.
BfA was way worse for alts, there’s just no debating it.
Oh really?
460 Heroic, 475 Mythic for the first ten bosses.
470 Heroic, 485 Mythic for the final two. Oh noes those 3 more. Quick call the police. You also forgot the RNG mess (which im adressing further down)
They spammed it also specifically for Corruptions before the Vendor was a thing. S4 pre vendor was an RNG mess. Only certain pieces in the raid had fixed corruption procs on them. For the rest you better prayed before the vendor became a thing. Went even as far as people hoping they wouldnt get trinkets in their weekly vault.
And lets not even start talking about the missing upgrade system. Also the lack of Azerite pieces in the Vault as well as dungeons. Forcing you to have them dropped in the raid or buy them with Titan residuum (where you either waited longer to buy your desired one or tried the casino)
Because there’s nothing ‘to get’. It’s a hyperbolic statement meant to lure people into the thread. It’s bait.
Gearing for PVE is horrible, I agree with that, but not as horrible as in shadowlands with timegated legendaries.
Care to explain why it’s horrible?
You get 5 sparks to craft items from the start, 385 upgradable to 395 in the forbidden reach, rep 376 to 396 items, uncapped valor and the catalyst to make any item a tier set piece, I don’t see how it’s horrible.
I think it simply takes too long to get bis gear, if you don’t swipe with your credit card. Not asking to get full bis after a few weeks, but I think it takes multiple months now of playing one character every week to get bis gear in PVE. In PVP it’ s very fast for example, but also not too fast actually imo. In this season, heroic raiders were forced into M+ to get bis gear. I viewed this as very problematic. For a casual, renown also isn’t account wide too, which sucks. Overall, I think PVE-wise dragonflight is not alt-friendly enough at all. To sprinkle in some personal experience: Last reset I only got things I already had from the vault. This just feels terrible. Also, in m+, most people are simply boosted too, which makes running keys incredibly frustrating so late into the season. The game just sucks in every way, if you are behind imo, and you care about reaching a certain goal.
Then start your alts early in the season, all your problems are fixed.
And really unless you want to push 29s you don’t need absolute BiS and 415 is easily achievable on alts.
You trolling mate. If there ever was an alt friendly expansion its been DF.
There has been no other expansion that I have levelled up so many Alts in the first patch of the game and been able to make good progress on them.
Sorry, you clearly haven’t tried.
Idk, I would prefer it being faster personally, but to each their own. Getting rating in M+ so late into the season is a huge headache, because the hardest affix of the game is the insane amount of boosted noobs currently making it impossible to host keys without headache, and without rating, you also rly can’t join keys, so it’s just pure stupidity on blizzard’s end. I would enjoy the PvE side more, if we had a soloqueue system for M+, where it’s impossible to boost people.
I completely agree and feel the pain.
DF is not alt friendly at all, despite some comments saying otherwise. It is a HUGE grind.
Quite a bit of difference between 400 and 424.
So yes, I would call 400 quite bad as well.
Tbh, I have the feeling many people are terrible at the game, and they fear, that they get completely outskilled, if there wasn’t extreme gatekeeping to get from 400 to 420 ilvl xd I genuinely think that this is the problem people have with faster gearing. Also boosters hate fast gearing, because if content isn’t tuned around gear progression as much, they have a way harder time carrying people. I think it’d be nice, if gearing time got maybe reduced by 40% and it was more deterministic and less reliant on vault.
Because it seems ur might set is “Either BiS or trash”.
Thats just simply put, no 400 isnt a competitive ilevel at the bleeding edge. However.
Considering i could make a level 70 and it be 400 in a singular day without any effort, 400 is a ilevel which is decebt, u can get into +15s with that ilevel, ur well and truely over the ilevel needed to heroic raid. Ur basically entirely end game ready.
Over 70% of the end game, at 400 ilevel is of 0 upgrade to urself, which means uve compelted 70% of WoWs end gsme with 1 days effort.
The score of my main probably helped to get invites but recently I managed to get 2410rio on my frost mage in a bit over two weeks starting from ilvl 370 to ilvl 406.
If you’re goal is to push higher keys definitely start earlier in the season and/or try finding a push group.
It does take time to level the proffesion talents up unless they recently added more catch up mechanics for it.
Crafting proffsions especially arent worth it since leveling it up tends to take alot of gold and time
Just wanted to say, this is the easiest alt expansion ever. Forbidden reach farming for PvE and PvP is just conquest boxes… you can also get tier set easily from the conquest boxes with the catch up to the catalyst thing.
As for the crafted stuff, you buy the mata from AH and send over some primal stuff from your main, and bing bang boom, 5 mins you got your crafted item.
Bruh, what are you smoking.
BFA was one of the worst expansions for alts, it’s up there with Legion.
Yes, and my whole point is, that this shouldn’t be the case, y’know. I ask for change, not really for advice. A soloqueue system for M+ will help players like me a LOT to at least get into a range, where I can transition easily into higher end pugs/groups. Gearing also should not take as long as it does imo, and the time it takes is severely shortened by soloqueue, since we can do more dungeon in less time that way.
To gear an alt to 410 only takes 1 week? So no its faster then the previous expansions