This guy is really telling us “If you want RDF go Cata”
“If you want the Guild Bank go Wotlk, because it was added only at the end of TBC so you shouldn’t get it”
2 Likes
At which point they’ll just restart the idiotic conversation with “the majority of players clearly said they dont want it” linking back to the same tired idiotic powerpoint from the 1.12 announcement.
It’s so very boring.
1 Like
Oooookey let’s try again.
What was described was part of ALL of the Cata experience.
What was described was not part of the major WOTLK experience. Nothing of what was described existed during the first phase and RDF wasnt part of the game until the last phase.
So based on that fact. What was described is the Cata experience and not the major WOTLK experience.
It did technically last -almost- half the duration. But what was described was the Cata experience, all of the Cata experience, and not the major WOTLK experience.
Get it now?
No absolutely not. I hope we never get RDF or LFR in Classic no matter the expansion.
The battleground stuff is fine though.
I am just pointing out that what was described was the Cata experience and not the major WOTLK experience.
Yes, you’re attempting to pointlessly sidetrack to suit your narrative and it’s still pointless cause absolutely no one but you have talked about the Cataclysm experience in this thread.
2 Likes
You forgot to add that they should unlock firemaw so your friends can level quicker on it:)
Yes you did and I just pointed that out and that is how this discussion started.
This is the Cata leveling experience.
During most of WOTLK and the major WOTLK experience we did not have those things.
What you describe is the Cata experience and not the major WOTLK experience.
So with MoP and WoD having last contentpatch having more time then the rest it means that the thing they added there are in your eyes part of the Add-on experience but the other last content patches not.
1 Like
I have a scoop for you, it’s not Classic ERA but Wotlk Classic, i mean, i can name it Wotlk Chimera now.
There is no valable reason to not have RDF in the game, 0.
EDIT : maybe 1, against 99 others reasons.
I don’t really know what you are saying about WoD and MoP but let me explain what I mean with the major experience of an expansion.
The major experience is really when we experience the progression of an expansion. When we get new talents and stuff, we travel to the new world, we experience the dungeons and we progress through the raids tiers and content. This is where the phrase “It’s all about the journey” comes from.
What was described as the “WOTLK leveling experience” was actually the Cata experience and not the WOTLK experience. So I pointed that out. If we take RDF specifically that was added in the last phase along ICC. It was technically part of -almost- half the duration of WOTLK but it was not part of the major WOTLK experience. It was however part of the major Cata experience.
I agree and we already have RDF if the game. In fact we have had RDF in the game since December 8, 2009.
What was lacking was a Classic version of the game that didn’t have RDF and now we have that to.
So you wanted your own ideal Wotlk.
Not the Wotlk in 3.3.5
Problem solved.
Can i have my own ideal Wotlk now please ?
If you ask me personally what I want then I wanted an authentic WOTLK progression using the authentic patches from pre-patch to the end where we get WOTLK Era 3.3.5. That would mean RDF along ICC staying forever on WOTLK Era.
The problem with the pro-RDF crowd is that you don’t want that. You are not happy with a reasonable RDF forever in WOTLK Era along ICC and instead you wanted to shove it down our throat from launch and spamming the forum. Most of you are super toxic and spamming straw man comments so it’s impossible to take you serious.
So I am happy with #somechnages and the official design pillars. With a little luck we will never get RDF or LFR even in Cata and MoP Classic. One can only dream. Cata pre-nerf dungeons without RDF would be pretty awesome.
This is great news indeed. Hopefully I’ll manage to finally get to 80.
@Jeynar and @Djansoul we don’t agree on anything it seems so I am just curious. The Joyous Journeys 50% Experience Buff, yay or nay? Personally I like it. It’s not authentic and was never part of the original experience but in Classic it feels right and it adds something without taking anything away.
It would be cool to get that, but we can’t, so put RDF.
The problem is RDF was removed for social improvement.
Did they improved the social ? No.
People still just saying LF, Hi, Summ please, Buff please, AoE during 15min and say Cya all.
Of course we are not, because there is no reason to not put it day one as we get a game from 3.3.5 version with 99% of all mecanics/features.
Most of you are super toxic because you want to appropriate all expansion, being hypocrite like that isn’t toxic ?
Blizzard let us know that every pro-something could get their own expansion, but because of your community we can’t get that.
You get your famous Classic, the famous best version ever of the game, best social RPG of WoW ever, and let it empty after TBC release, and asking to transform every expansion in Vanilla like. Isn’t toxic for who waited his expansion over years ?
Official design pillars doesn’t mean that it works in the game.
LF last tank for
+1
Hi
Afk 5min google chrome during the fly
Buff please
Summon please
Spamming AoE afk netflix
Ty all cya
i just got declined from a normal nexus run because… im a enhance shaman, yep i gave the dude a whisper to ask why he declined me from a normal easy dungeon all i wanted was the quests, because of my spec he said, players really have to cherry pick for a N nexus run?
good game, awful community.
I can copy 100 posts like that on the forum.
So, where is your famous design pillars, everyone knows that the experience of Wotlk is nothing like 15 years before.
Selfish, hypocrite.
Exactly what i said.
This is disgusting
2 Likes
I really don’t care tbh about the original Wotlk, if it was me i’d ask for a Wotlk 2.0 because i played it over 12 years and i know what is bad and good on it.
And as someone who played on many servers in 12 years on the same game, lvling with quest is boring.
So, why i defend RDF if i don’t care about the originale experience ? Because people need to understand that removing RDF doesn’t changed anything about social, immersion etc.
LF, hi, buff please, afk google during the fly is the reality.
I hate when people are forced to us to play their way in the case where they are just blinded, with 0 real experience and with outdated argument.
Well I gave it a try.
Not to long ago I read from a pro-RDF posted “I hate the Classic community”.
So there it is, the root of the issue.
The pro-RDF people don’t care about the original game and they hate the Classic community.
It explains everything.
Personally I care about the original game A LOT and I like the Classic community.
We are different that way.
Yes this is the root of the issue and this is way AGAIN
And also because your kind of community stubborn, doesn’t read or skip what they want exactly as you did right now.
So yes
If you care about the original game go back to Classic ERA.
Wotlk seems not for you as you want to transform it into Vanilla like.
Again, go back to Classic ERA instead being cancer to others players by forcing your way to play the game from another version.
Stop thinking you are better than us because you are not, you are the worst community i ever seen in 12 years of wow
1 Like
And now you can see why we call him DjChimpsoul.
If brains were dynamite, he wouldn’t have enough to blow his nose. 1084 dollars.
I said “most of you are super toxic and spamming straw man comments so it’s impossible to take you serious.” and he is like “hold me bear” 
I’m still curious what these people think of the 50% buff though?
I just want to make it very clear. I hate Era. It’s all about the journey for me. It can be the same journey more than once though. I think it’s a good idea to have Era for those who like that because why not 
1 Like
It’s funny because you do the exact same thing…
Ye I keep hearing the “classic community” one, but so far it seems it’s not really “the classic community” but instead a small minority trying to force it’s will upon the rest of the actual classic players in its majority, by pretending to be its spokesperson.
Just saying if there was an actual vote among all active players, I would not be suprised it might turn out ‘No RDF’ is not at all what community wants for wotlk, but rather a few individual who shout the loudest.
Guess we’ll never know for certain.
3 Likes