Going to give the RP-PvE server a try. Not sure if I’ll stick with Classic or not, but I’m sure I’ll have fun with it for a while due to the novelty/nostalgia factor.
The only thing that’d really keep me around long-term is the potential for RP, because I much prefer the way the world was back then, but it’s possible that people with the current RP mentality might kill that feeling (e.g. everything has to be large, bombastic, grandiose and full of memes). Obviously that stuff has been around for a while, but these days 90% of RP I encounter is like that.
I’m hoping there’ll be some more low-key fantasy stuff as opposed to the good old “ah yes there’s a gnomish device for that” stuff we’ve got going on today.
This isn’t a knock on anyone or their RP preferences, mind, I just find that the current standard of RP on Argent Dawn isn’t my particular cup of tea.
I never got to play during classic so i’ll definately be giving it a go on an RP server. I have a night elf druid that would be great to try out as an adventurer.
Still no idea what I’m going to make TBH. Almost certainly a Tauren, but which class Played a warrior to max in Classic and another one in TBC so not sure I want to do that again, maybe a druid or shaman?
Not sure what benefits rping on classic would bring, I only see negatives.
Less places to go
Stuck with classic outfits with low res textures
Have to take all your RP outfits around with you in your bags as no transmog
Restricted to where you can get to until you re-level up and you can`t speed fly somewhere to join an event.
Can’t use old raid instances for RP.
Less races to pick from
No cross faction communication.
So no I won’t be heading there, current wow is far more RP friendly than classic.
I’ll certainly be making an Orc Shaman. If there is an RP-PvE server thats probably where I’ll end up. As much as an RP-PvP server could be fun I can already imagine the Try Hard Rogues all over the place just trying to ruin the experience for everyone.
You might wanna take a peek in the general discussion forums and classic forums. There is by no means a small population of intentional classic players who call “retailers” anything ranging from “blizzard cucks” to “shills” or whatever insult they came grab from their clouds surrounding their lofty iveoy tower of smugness.
I don’t want people to hate classic by any margin. I was there. It was cool. I’m more the kidn to point out that a lot of what classic has going for it is attitudinal, not mechanical. It has less locations, less races, less, classes, less customisation. Mechanically that is less.
People don’t care about that. They refer to “golden days” of courteous manners and RP that was magnificent. This stuff has nothing to do with the mechanics of classic. There’s nothing to stop this stuff appearing in retail. The one thing that crosses both which is significant in my mind is that classic has non cata zones, and certain races are gone. Rather than outright pluses, I see them as preferential potential bonuses as for every player who harks back to the “true horde” there is one who likes the belf they’ve written and built up over time.
A lot of people are expecting classic to be several things that can’t be predicted by its mechanical composition. It will be more social. It will be home to more humble rp. It will be hardcore. It will have true gamers. We have no way of knowing this. The community that played vanilla is not the same one that will play classic. There will be some of the same folks, plus newer players taking a look. To expect the player made community to mirror it precisely is a bit naive in my opinion. That was a snapshot in Time, you will never recreate it exactly.
I see it like marriages. Some people go into a marriage thinking it will change everything about their relationship. It doesn’t. It still requires exactly the same stuff. So it will with classic to have this epic feeling of being social, of true glorious RP. It won’t magically happen. It will need player effort. Effort that could be generated and deployed in retail couldn’t it?
I really hope people who are game for it will find happiness there, and it will refresh them enough to reset their creative juices and let them just enjoy. I just think there will be a fair portion who will not have that magic happen to them, and after seeing classic doesn’t make this all happen, they may be a bit disappointed because they’re expecting too much of the game itself and not taking stock of how much their mindset is important to make it work for them.
As someone who likes and has some Seer/Prophet alike characters, and might want to roll one on Classic, while totally not being of that type, now I feel anxious.
I mean, this char himself receives visions, although they are usually vague, and he won’t share them with anyone… I mean, why would you tell anything you know to anyone? And i don’t use spoilers or alike stuff for it, totally unrelated. Nor they have to be true.
So, basically misjudgment would await if i RP my Troll Prophet on Classic, even not being the type people think (aka metagaming of sorts)…?
I’ve spent a solid 2 years on that forum and the majority of the negativity for the longest time was morons regurgitating “you think you meme, but you meme!” despite the fact many of us have been playing on shoddy private servers for the longest time. That’s not touching on the wall of the no or the people who are literally OBSESSED with stopping the idea of classic even being a thing. Months and months passed of groups of very vocal people both on reddit and the forums trying to make sure classic WoW would be retail 2.0 and their own little bastardized playground. There was a very concerted effort to hijack the project that goes beyond an obsession in to a realm of unhealthy malice.
There are definitely people who throw abuse about, perhaps not always justified. This isn’t a one sided thing. There’s been lots of shade thrown at classic by everyone from popular streamers who talked it down (but then played it and loved it) to just general forum busybodies who have been poking, prodding and whinging incessantly, lobbying to either bastardize the project, stop it entirely or turn it in a frankenstein. A good majority of the time the most vocal negativity was not the classic community. The exact way you described the classic community is exactly how the anti-classic weirdo’s have been acting, for a long time, long before classic was even a thing. The wall of no etc.
I feel it will be handled like prophets now with upcoming patch notes-- just don’t take the mick with soecifics. Keep things vague, and of course make room for error.
I think intentional metagaming will be a smaller problem than unintentional metagaming. We know a lot now, and that’s not easy to forget. Tauren couldn’t be priests and sunwalkers were unheard of, so a character who casually mentions such is making an opsie. Same goes for trolls chilling with gonk and being somewhat druidic. Where are people gonna draw the line on what was then and what is now? Because I think if you start involving a bit of “now” I’m classic, such as these cultural examples where we’re told “yeah, they’ve been a thing, we just didn’t know about it” back in classic when it literally was unknown, you’re creating real blurred boundaries and problems. How did your troll get this druidic teaching? From whom? Where are they? So better to just push the erase button and forget all about troll druids in classic and any predilection they may have for druidic magic.
It’s this kind of stuff I envisage will cause issues. It won’t be done with malice, but it’s that stuff that’s informed by a knowledge of what happens later, to create a character before that happened.
Both sides have morons who bad mouth the other. I bear no Ill will to people who wanna like it. Ive made it clear I hope they do. I will take a look to try out the “magic” again of course, I guess I’m just skeptical of the claims you see floating around that it’s gonna kick retail out of the water because of XY and Z which are usually things to do with player attitude than the mechanics of classic itself. It just makes me wonder “well if you want it so badly then why not do it here?”. Who knows.
What I do know is I won’t be maining a priest again.
There are definitely people with hyper-inflated expectations but if you talk to the veterans, or the people that have come over from private servers it just boils down to personal preferences. Most people I know would have preferred TBC in terms of gameplay but prefer vanilla for the actual setting in regards to roleplay. I don’t expect it to overtake, or blow modern WoW away. I think we’ll see a large group of people initially which will eventually sit at low or middling six figure number once everyone’s tried it out and decided whether it’s for them.
I agree TBC gameplay wise was better vastly IMHO. I played classes in classic that were very pigeonholed into one thing and TBC actually made other specs feel viable. Hybrids actually became hybrids for example. A TBC classic would certainly interest me more than pure classic.
Played a warrior to max in Classic and another one in TBC so not sure I want to do that again, maybe a druid or shaman?