Because devs, unlike players, must have some sort of big picture of what works and what doesn’t .
Because most players wouldn’t even care about big picture, they want something for themselves .
Game that follows players’ whims soon ceases to be a working game. Remember Star Wars Galaxies?
here if nowhere else , “you think you want it but you don’t”.
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Probably because Blizz these days wanna spend as little as possible. Why would they let us have 5-6 zones for housing to choose between when they can get away with making 2 zones for now? I dont even see the point of discussing this. They didnt make a poll, they didn’t let us decide. If they had made a poll of lets say 8 different options and the 2 with most votes won, it still would have left alot of people not satisfied. Unless the 2 that won, won with a massive majority of votes. Which they probably wouldn’t.
Could they have made a poll? Ofcourse. They just chose not to, like they do with most of the decisions in this game. They just let us vote on some dungeons and tier sets here and there when they feel like it.
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I think it’s silly; unless you want to have your house open to burglary - could be a fun toggle.
The reason I say this is that for many of us these collections would be things we’ve worked for for decades, and having it stolen would really suck. In many cases it might suck almost as much as it does in real life to have a house break in, and I don’t play video games to experience such things. Encouraging players to do it on top of the situation in real life, where you’re discouraged but it’s possible, would make it so much worse. On top of that, you can’t carry that much in real life, and the objects can be found again. Likely not so in WoW.
And I don’t want to have my raid night suddenly cancelled, or having to log in in a middle of a meeting at work, in order to protect my pixelated picture of a woman eating an apple next to a hungry murloc. Just isn’t something I want to do.
I think it’s essential. WoW should always discourage, though allow, isolating yourself completely.
Neighbourhoods are a great feature and in fact pretty much the very idea that the vanilla team experimented with. The only problem of course is that it isn’t clear where in the hell this location is, but I suppose if we can have BG’s, why not neighbourhoods, even if it doesn’t make sense.
If you don’t want anyone inside your house, just make it private.
Ok, lets agree to disagree. I think, its possible to make a poll, that allows to determine which zones to do to cover over 50% of people at least. You apparently think its not. We did not do the poll, so we dont know the result and if the result is like you say or like i say. Lets leave it at that.
my theory is they are afraid to really invest into housing
because of the garrison story
they are trying to do a demo
maybe to put one finger in to test the water
or maybe just to get through midnight and set up another shelf in the store
who knows.
so wow is somehow special, that in other games housing works, and in wow it wouldnt?
idk cant agree with this.
maybe somewhere you could make this case, but if there is one thing that they should have 100% done the poll for, its housing.
there is no way, how devs know better than the players, where the players want to build their house, unless they poll
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I think that if there’s a neighborhood of 50, it is exciting.
Maybe I’d be in the garden, doing some stuff, and my neighbor popped by and we had a talk?
The idea must be to promote random communities, create commonality.
For years, especially here, I’ve been one of the biggest advocates for getting the highest tier of gear from solo content, and this was usually met with resistance from most on here.
"It's an MMO, you should have to interact with others."
So yeah, reading the Housing article and this thread’s response to it, has put a smile on my face 
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Depends on the size of the poll. If you only have 2 zones to choose from, then the one with over 50% of the votes win. That would make more then 50% of the ppl that voted happy. If you have 8 zones to choose from, then the zone with more then 12,5% of the votes would be the winner. The 12,5+ % would be happy, the 87% that voted for the other zones would still be unhappy. Do you now understand what I mean?
I think you misunderstood the idea.
Basically you take some pool of zones. Let’s say 20 zones. Then you give each person some amount of votes, let’s say 4. Then you poll and find out the ladder. Then you either straight out do the top 4, if that means over 50% of people get at least one zone they wanted. Or you pick the top 1st zone, then you remove everyone from the sample, who picked that zone, and do a new ladder; pick 1st zone from that; etc 4 times in a row. With this or other methods you are probably going to find a solution, where at least 50% of people get at least one zone they voted for.
Obviously these are stand in numbers, you can do more or less.
For some reason you think this would not work.
I don’t know why, but it’s possible. Not probable. But possible.
We would not know, unless we actually do the poll
You are doing nothing more than grasping for straws here. Even mentioning a complicated poll like that and Blizzard in the same sentence means you are just trying to have the last word here.
You know just as well as anyone else they would never ever do that and therefore even mentioning it is useless.
You know that all they would ever do is put up a poll with like 5 or 6 options, have one win with like 25% and then ignore the 75% thats unhappy.
Absolutely no use in even mentioning any other way of doing a poll unless you are just being stubborn about have the last word.
Also your poll has massive flaws, but let’s not get in to that.
I never said it wouldn’t work, I said there would still be people unhappy with the results even if they made a poll. End of the day, they didn’t make a poll so discussing how the result of a poll would be is wasted anyways.
One can argue for the opposite too.
If it was more or less a demo, afraid to invest into it, then one would expect more or less a Garrison-style environment. Very limited, somewhat pre-set, one single location, etc.
Instead they made it somewhat a game on itself, inside WoW. They made it quite dynamic, big, variable, complex, …
And on top of that, they let Housing take most of the attention of the future developments/expansion.
Maybe a new character creation- The Estate Agent.
vulpera should get a Caravan not a house
change my mind…
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Tourer could be another option
You can disagree but you misunderstand the issue. I don’t want to be part of a neighbourhood at all. A solo plot as you get in various other MMOs is perfect. It is indeed an MMO and many MMOs manage solo housing just fine. Nothing about solo housing goes against an MMO. I do group content with others, raiding, dungeons, delves, visions etc. Housing should not be group content IMO
Solo plots means I get the choice of where I want to be (within a list of set locations obviously), I’m not having to take some awful leftover plot somewhere that I don’t really want in a mass of other people. The plots away from others will be in the highest demand. It’s just going to suck. I want my choice of where to live, so does everyone else.
Solo plots could also cater to a single plot in a suitable location for their race. Instead of being forced into Human vs Orc architecture again. I will never want to live in a mud hut. And then I’m stuck with Human as the next best thing.9
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They could even have chosen the most popular Horde and Alliance races instead of this. But no.
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I love player housing, i’ve always wanted to see it in WoW, but i must admit im not fan of neighbourhood system.
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Like I said, there are many ways to make such a poll, and there is no excuse for not doing it
Idk what this even means, unless you are saying, that I am wasting time criticizing Blizzard, because they won’t improve.
If that’s what you are saying, it’s a valid point, but I will make my own decisions about my time, thank you very much.
I think, it’s extremely important for people to voice their concerns, criticisms and warnings to blizzard on housing, and it’s good people do that here and even to greater extent in the US forum. The YouTubers are obviously “yes, sir! Perfect, sir! You can do no wrong, sir”, but it’s their career.
But yeah, probably blizzard will not take any of it into consideration and we still have 0 utility, 0 zone choice, forced MP etc.
But if that happens, they might as well just go straight to releasing wow 2 lol
Well, perhaps, the resources have dwindled to where what they can now make is just a fraction of what they made in wod.
That certainly would explain why we still only have 2 zones
Polls on these forums are useless as they can be trolled and spammed by alts just going to mention Grim Batol , Ara-kara, City of Echoes and the tree mount.
true, polls on the forum are 100% useless