Wow is amazing

Don’t know what “your day” is, but I vividly remember the forums back in WotLK, full of complaints about how Blizzard became greedy (sparkle pony just one example), Activision will destroy the game, Wrath babies, easy heroics and free epics for everyone, WoW is dying, etc. etc.

So: complaints were always there. You just remember things with rose tinted glasses, it’s normal. I was a teen in the 90s and had some difficult times back then, but sure enough nowadays I tend to only remember how cool everything was.

That being said, WoW right now is full of bugs and things that don’t work properly. Sure, Earthen are super cool and they gave me motivation to play more this expansion, but right now the game has a lot of issues (as already said by others above me).

Do I like the game? Yes, sure. Is it perfect? Nope, not even close. Is there any franchises that are in a worst situation? Of course, just look at how EA is ruining The Sims.

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My point is, it’s hard to take you seriously when you’re just ranting about stuff you know nothing about.

So following your logic nobody here can speak because nobody owns a billionaire company, correct? May I have an opinion if I have a PhD in business or that’s not allowed either, your highness?

It must hurt that you can only trashtalk and attack me as a person because unable to reply to any of the points I have listed.

OOhhhhh :clown_face: :clown_face: I think the fact that you still have 0 likes after 8 hours speaks by itself, nobody is with you on this.

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Read jason schreier’s book dood, it’s funny how you don’t realise how many things, especially toxic work environment existed since blizzard was created as a company, i’m getting tired if this imaginary narrative.

I remember people whining that blizzard “doesn’t listen to fans” in 2011

You. You are the problem. You keep paying monthly for a product you not satisfied with . As long as you and every other complainer continues to do so then to Blizzard everything must be fine. As soon as subs dip radically because you voting with your wallet then action will be taken. It also stands to reason that if you still here even though you complain about bugs then those bugs are not game breaking enough for you to move on. Also translates to misdirected anger. Think about it and then be honest with yourself.

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The lesson blizzard is learning, particularly from the mount sales moments after the guild bank issue. Is that as long as they let people moan a bit on the forums, they can keep going as usual whatever happens.

This is dangerous indeed

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I pay because the product is still the best on the market and has potential to be the best MMORPG ever made, and I criticise because I care. Caring is not something you can just turn on/off at will, though I doubt you understand if your perspective is from a casual player who’s gonna quit sooner than later because you aren’t attached to the game.

Then tell me, what other way there is of giving information that needs to be adressed on the game? Quitting? No, quitting will just kill the game. If the people who run this company stop making profit they will simply shut it down, is that what you want?

Rogue losing stealth due to spaghetti coding has been a problem for months as long as I know, and that’s a game breaking issue that needs to be adressed.

I don’t see the point of you suddenly attacking me on a personal level, why would you even say something like that? What is the purpose?

Oh and don’t worry I’m very honest and mentally healthy, definitely more than somebody who needs to commit to personal attacks on a WoW debate.

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This is laudable and I feel the same, and indeed do the same.

However eventually most companies learn to predict when something will result in a drop in sales, or when it’ll just result in people talking in a forum they barely read…

Fixing issues costs money, the cash shop makes money, so the bugs remain, but new items appear on the shop. People moan, but they know deep down that’s all people will do. Moan

My response is to your question about what their excuse is.

You reading the response out of context and reading it in the mood you are in.

Because the game went from a “uh nice, an unexplored cave! Wonder what’s in there?” or “Hey mate, we need another one for Deadmines, do you want to come?”

To Install speed lvling addon, that guides you through the entire world and “omg noob dps! initiates vote kick

Everyone is in such a rush to get to the end, to finish, to complete the game, that they lost the sense of joy in what was before…

All this mixed with the streamer / youtuber scene, we have a whole community that follows these “tier list” guides blindly and will refuse to accept a class or spec because Streamer Andy told them that the spec was C tier, without even considering if it actually matters in the +2 they are running…

WoW has become one big FOMO and FOTM game, that people will put their own joy overboard for pixels.
Look around the threads… “I hate Plunderstorm!! Why must i suffer hours a day to get this mount?!”… “Omg Timewalking dungeons are slower now!! I was power lvling my alts!”… “I can’t get invited to a +7 as a fire mage even though I have all keys at 10”

I came back end Legion after having stopped in TBC, and man… Things have changed… But I still do enjoy the game, sometimes just wandering off… Trying to socialize and finding cool people to play with :slight_smile:

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There is no place or excuse in a discussion about WoW where you should ever directly address somebody’s mental health, therefore your point is invalid.

Perhaps you’re projecting?

I had a bug that any character I logged in game would randomly get different time debuff that would prevent join any content. I log in game to see 88min debuff, then log to another character that would show 15min, then another character that would show 38min then log back to character with 15min and now its showing 2h. That most certainly were a bug that was something corrupted in files which I tried repair on and made ticket but didnt get help, I needed gm to help me which I did not get. Luckily I got rid of the bug without help till next day but it most definitely were game breaking. Game is riddled with bugs and ptr is long gone, and debuff that randomly appears on you or keeps increasing between characters most definitely is game breaking one.

I could write a bunch of things that annoy me in the current expansion aswell but frankly I dont care list all of it on this specific thread and I dont care make threads as this. Its not a good way to start discussion either by telling others they are doing something wrong and then make false statements or imo odd comparisons that doesnt make sense, thats not the way to begin proper discussion without being provocative. If he honestly wanted to begin an discussion that is but I see it more as reaction bait and troll thread.

From my perspective as a player that has struggled with this game for 16 years all I can say is the game suffers from its age and lack of innovative content. It basically has milked the old formula to death. It relies on a new turn over of players every two to three years so that the player base doesn’t notice all the brush broad stroke cutting and pasting. The game is a shadow of its former self and most that play today seem to enjoy more the building of their own personal collections of ‘stuff’ than any meaningful gameplay.

The game is a mess in truth. Nothing makes any real sense. The structure of the world and the various paths just are simple bonkers. One year you are playing Dragonflight as the main expansion and the next you are led to believe its pretty normal to go from Exile straight into last years end game, yet Undercity is in ruins, your crafting is all over the place, none of the portals to best loved places work, brick walls stopping you progressing to places in the game, travel ports not working, no other means of transport and it just leaves you scratching your head where the game wants you to go.

The current designers managed to well and truly unravel the ravelling in such a way that I doubt it can be ever pieced together to make any real sense. And so the player base tends to put up with it for the most part. Those that are vocal will either try and make a fist of it and support till the ship goes down, or try to make the developers see the errors of their ways and give them helpful advice.

For my part I love WoW, always have , but sadly it gets shreaded each time they release a patch. The game gets more muddled, diluted and chopped about. The era that I came from certainly offered more clarity and a cohesive product. Today its a formula game at best made to sell as an expansion and then milk players over what ever period they are prepared to tolerate the mess till the next expansion. And with each passing expansion less and less are prepared to put up with it. Sad.

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No but you have now proven my point on misdirection. cheers.

1999, Blizzard releases WC2, ToD for Windows, huge success, critics are falling over tehmselves about how good it is. Players on teh other hand complain blizzard is not listening to them, because it doesn´t include automated matchmaking via Battle.net (no games did at the time, btw)

The line is older than most of the people parroting it here every time they don´t get exactly what they want yesterday, especially when the ask was never realistic to begin with. :beers:

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I love when people get so defensive that they resort to personal attacks :rofl:

Are some elements of TWW good? Of course they are, otherwise I wouldn’t play it.

But yes, the expansion was rushed and not enough quality testing completed which led to:

  • Scaling issues which persist to this day
  • Class tuning so bad that they had to complete a total overhaul in the last patch
  • Warbands not working on release until a hotfix was applied
  • Broken AH for days
  • Guild Bank items being lost
  • Items dropping too rarely/frequently which created artificial market conditions until Blizz fixed them
  • PvP playlists not being able to be queued for
  • Glitches which allowed people to exploit certain content

And those are just the ones off the top of my head.

If you like it and are happy with everything then that’s great for you. But choosing to be blind to the issues doesn’t help anybody.

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Retail is 100% dog. Going back to Cata. This is not a game anymore. Its UI arcade smasher. Disgusting.

wow is indeed still awesome

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One has to concede that a game that lives up to a 20th anniversary is something incredible

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You’re calling Blizzard toxic, a former shadow of themselves and bent over.
Yet, you’re calling me out for using personal attacks.
You’re just very sensitive, the typical average wow player.
Of course I will defend Blizzard.