When I look at WoW now it reminds me of when RuneScape made the decision to push forward with EOC. Think of maybe Cataclysm onwards as EOC. Everyone’s favourite memories and times of the game were from Classic - WOTLK. Call that nostalgia yeah okay but it’s true. You know why? Everything you did in the game mattered, socialisation was thriving, the game didn’t require sweat upon sweat to complete raids and mythic+ wasn’t even a thing. For this game to thrive it does need a reset look at the state of the game now, you sweat your life away increasing your gear score and for what? Baring in mind this is no mean feet and requires you to complete the same handful of dungeons with no guarantee of a reward at the end and a slither of a chance in the weekly vault only for it to be reset the following season. I don’t know maybe Ions direction has ruined the game and yeah ‘everyone says wow will die all the time’ but for me once SOD or Classic + comes and they know what they are doing the days of Retail are numbered.
You want a reset, but somehow ignore that we already have a Classic Era, a Classic Progression, multiple HC’s where you can reset yourself and SoD for a very long period. Which of these versions do not appeal to you and why don’t they?
It is perfectly fine for the various versions to co-exist between each other catering to what the player wants.
Just like how there’s OSRS (OldSchool Runescape) and RS3 (Modern Runescape) heck they even have HC versions.
Yeah the game has different versions and mark my words once classic + gets its act together watch retail die.
Speak for yourself.
Go back to your Cave classic andy.
thats the first lie, i do, remmber all the grind to get into the raid at all, you need some special items or atuments.
so reset by doing it still again? that all the people who girnd threi progess have to do it agin.
so typical classic andy doomsday yeller…
hey, what the stae of your BC and Wotlk classic sever ![]()
You’re acting like both can’t co-exist (which they already do). People like different aspects of WoW. Thus why classic and retail exist.
Classic Anniversary couldn’t be any better pal
people actually talk in capital cities and the game is thriving socially.
Come and join us when you get sick of the same treadmill carrot on a stick game design every season….we’ll be waiting for you ![]()
Bugger off to your SoD and Classic then and stay there instead of seeking attention off retail like some saddo…
Love when players project their own feeling onto others. You do not speak for the whole community.
Nearly 9000 posts on the WoW forum and I’m the saddo…
Exactly, mine were in Legion. One can only speak from personal preference when addressing opinionated matters ![]()
I ain’t the attention seeker here so…
And 9k posts is like 4 posts a day on average… oh noes! ![]()
Classic fans said the exact same thing about Classic for years before Blizzard released it, and Retail didn’t die. Now the goalposts shift to Classic+.
Yeah the game has different versions and mark my words once classic + gets its act together watch retail die.
I have been watching since SL. Still waiting…
However, ive seen classic die more times though. And the only think keeping classic alive are the patch cycles of Retail.
And TLDR:
GTFO of our retail forum. Go play with your classic buddies if you are so convinced that is the way.
I’d say there’s an argument to be made that Retail WoW needs a different game direction. A reset is a bit extreme, but there’s certainly merit to saying that the gameplay in WoW operates on a loop that feels very artificial and constructed, and that the content production and gameplay adventure has become synthetical and repetitive.
That is to say that you basically know what playing a new major WoW patch or expansion entails before even trying it, because it plays exactly like any previous one – it just has a different theme.
It’s also become very apparent that progression in WoW is an illusion and that the Seasonal format is basically a mini reset every 6 months that ultimately just undermines the player effort and breaks the larger fantasy adventure down into smaller isolated experiences. A format that works well in a Battle Royale game, but arguably less so in an MMORPG.
It’s possible to defend the design as being workable, but it’s hard to elevate it as a major hallmark of excellence, I’d say.
When I look at WoW now it reminds me of when RuneScape made the decision to push forward with EOC. Think of maybe Cataclysm onwards as EOC. Everyone’s favourite memories and times of the game were from Classic - WOTLK. Call that nostalgia yeah okay but it’s true. You know why? Everything you did in the game mattered, socialisation was thriving, the game didn’t require sweat upon sweat to complete raids and mythic+ wasn’t even a thing. For this game to thrive it does need a reset look at the state of the game now, you sweat your life away increasing your gear score and for what? Baring in mind this is no mean feet and requires you to complete the same handful of dungeons with no guarantee of a reward at the end and a slither of a chance in the weekly b******* sorry vault only for it to be reset the following season. I don’t know maybe Ions direction has ruined the game and yeah ‘everyone says wow will die all the time’ but for me once SOD or Classic + comes and they know what they are doing the days of Retail are numbered.
The beast is still breathing, it’s just wheezing a bit. The game is still fun, just buried under three metric tons of RNG.
Blizzard has an incredible world
What it needs is focus. Not write an April Fools joke about the class balance
Yeah the game has different versions and mark my words once classic + gets its act together watch retail die
The cat is out of the box ![]()
Everyone’s favourite memories and times of the game were from Classic - WOTLK
My fondest memory of world discovery was in Vanilla
My fondest memory of me starting to learn how to play was in TBC
My fondest memory of raiding was in Cataclysm
My fondest memory of playing with real-life and online friends for fun is still being built even now in TWW
Everyone’s favourite memories and times of the game were from Classic - WOTLK.
The most fun I had in WoW was in Legion.
For this game to thrive it does need a reset
A reset would completely kill the game.
People would see everything they’ve done for years just disappear… You really think that would go over well?
but for me once SOD or Classic + comes and they know what they are doing the days of Retail are numbered.
For you, yeah. For most people playing, it won’t even be a thing.
From my own perspective Classic and all of its derivative versions might as well not exist. I’ll never play them.