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Tbh you are probably better than you give your credit for I don’t think the slight increase in ilvl and 5 % cc reduction makes that much of a difference obviously it matters but it’s not gonna magically make you good at the game is what I’m saying
Also you can do that for cheap gold with crafting orders. I will just repeat that you don’t have to donate to have it.
i just wanted easy mog early on.
not the pvp elite set.
I already did. I’m not sure about 10 games but it was very fast in solo shuffle. I’m also sure that if I can’t get 1800 here then 2 ilvl won’t help me. Boots also must have for every class and they cost cheap with crafting orders. You don’t need to pay real money to buy them…
Yes I got PvP elite set…
not now,but in the start of expac yes.
and whoever has it,has edge over others and easy time.
wow is pay to win,you in denial.
i buy a mythic raid boost/duelist and when im near you im a god and you a noob on the eyes on others.
All my point is that you can get that +2 ilvl advantage an hour earlier by paying money instead of gold because I need to farm ores for hour to buy it. It’s not real pay to win advantage. It’s not unbearable paywall. You can easily make gold enough for that.
See? I play what I want and I succeeded at everything. It’s people like you, who think the game is p2w because YOU fail to achieve it. How is that my problem you fail to achieve your goals?
I cleared heroic raids with 95+ logs and I killed some mythic bosses (helping friends) with ~90 logs too. You thinking the food and stuff is required, is just you being delusional seeking for excuses why YOU couldn’t do it.
The stuff 100% helps, it’s just not required. Huge difference.
And why do we pretend it’s hard to get money by playing? I got like 500k by spamming some dungeons on tank/heal and selling these gems that disappear after one wipe.
I mean I did that on my blue geared hunter and several other chars. Didn’t use any gold the chars didn’t get on their own through leveling. What’s hard about it?
In solo shuffle you get 2,1k for free btw because you barely drop any points.
Well maybe for you? Idk? I started other classes later and got further, without buying anything expensive. So does that mean the p2w doesn’t work properly?
Do what? Get elite mog? Already got it 
This is tied to placement games and MMR, you don’t even have control over it.
I don’t think you did it in 10 games, unless the MMR was absolutely all over the place and you got lucky with placement games. Has nothing to do with you, nor your gear, sorry friend.
I could level something up and get 1,8k with 60%+ win rate if you want? Isn’t that also showcasing how you don’t need money even missing few vaults?
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Its not pay to win. World first is over. Y’all lost.
In pvp it makes no diff if u dont have best enchants or gems u are getting zerged by 5+ ppl anyway or you are zerging someone.
But blizzard knew exactly what they were doing when they set up these professions. Enchants costing 100k and some mats for other stuff having very high prices were all planned so you would buy tokens.
If you only knew how often i hear people saying “ill send the order as soon as my token sells”. Most people can’t make much gold as quickly as they would like so they whip out their credit card.
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Logs and arena history are open for everyone. You’ll instantly rect when start playing by yourself in that content if you’re boosted. Also I’m not playing for high achievements. I play for gameplay. There is no any sense in duelist for me. It gave you advantage and was real paytowin for ppl who can’t get that rating in shadowlands. It’s not paytowin since it doesn’t give you any single advantage. It’s paytoskip. In that case you just skip all gameplay. You can even hare slave and order him to play instead of you. What’s your point? Play real pay to win games when you pay and get real advantage. When money will put you on level of YEARS of farm. Not 3 hours of bg for gear and 1 hour of ores for enchants.
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Or when you defend paytoskip here, when you farmed and grinded for 3 years while Blizzard grinded and farmed you for your earned money so that you could play high content for about one expansion. This is called gameplay man! 
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If the most dedicated players don’t get rewarded for doing far more, what’s the point of progression at all? Give everyone 418 ilvl gear then for free and no work. You clearly don’t understand the very core concept of mmorpgs. Better players who do more get better rewards, as it should be.
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Pretty sure this is Lariat. The overhyped neckpiece. The holy grail, the supposed BiS for every class and other bs like that. That’s why you see these outrageous prices.
This ilvl is not possible unless you clear +16
M+ stones. And at this point you get gear like that from the vault and the raids as well. The proffesion crafted items are meant to be nothing more than a bad-luck prevention mechanic. Beating M+, Solo Shuffle and Raids will gear you faster. Way faster. I got a 411 item by just completing the dungeon quest last week, no gold required.
When a system is too convoluted this is always the case. Risk with experimentation? Or read a guide and be done with it? Personally, I don’t read guides, they ruin the fun of figuring out the system by myself. Did I do mistakes? Yes, a few. Was the game ruined for me? Absolutely not. You are overdramatic for no reason. Eventually, you will have points and sparks for everything.
You know how an economy works? The prices can even be raised x10 for all I care. And no, I don’t have millions I am considered very “poor” when compared with the majority of other players because I use my gold every month for game time AND buying flasks, pots, food etc etc.
So, you probably wonder, why I don’t care about the prices? It’s simple, the higher the prices of the aforementioned items are the higher the mats will be sold as well. I am making 1k gold every 5 minutes by just gathering ores and fishing right now. Which is all times high for me as well. So why are you so worried about the prices? I never had a problem with the prices personally and I just do some basic farming/gathering. Nothing hardcore.
Yes, you are going crazy. It’s not worth to pay EU for in-game gold at all. I am doing the opposite and I don’t have to pay monthly subscription because of the suckers who spend real life money for WoW tokens. So it’s a win-win situation for me.
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Every MMORPG I know offers p2skip in some way. Why would you skip the gameplay tho?
I guess you really just need this excuse because you can’t be the issue, right?
Post with your main, let’s see how far you got and if I was able to do it without even trying. Or are you afraid this will destroy your entire p2w argument?
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It would be much easier to give maximum gear to everyone according to the patch for some nice story task and then let them face the mechanics…let them decide. And don’t force players to play in order to have gear. After that, the achievements will also be fair.
Im 8/8 normal and 8/8 HC soon i will start mythic bcs i don’t have time right now. More you don’t need to know.
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for sure is not having donations for currency.
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That’s just not how mmorpgs work. It’s about progressing your character and improving your character. You’re supposed to get stronger. What you’re talking about are competitive pvp games that need to be exactly the same balanced chances for everyone. This is not what a mmorpg is
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