Which is odd because no one ever goes digging for subscription numbers when those numbers are presumed to be high.
Everyone knows the sub numbers spike when new patch comes out, problem is that it’s only a spike cause every patch is a new disappointment.
When the subscriber numbers were high Blizzard had no problems of presenting these numbers so the speculation was not needed back then.
i could mention quite a few
When I struggle to find groups to do content with I will start doom mongering. Until then all is good 
For perspective:
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All but lowest PVP ratings are empty, thanks to Blizzard’s stellar handling of PVP, plus way too few people participating overall.
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Guild-based PVE on Alliance side is empty, thanks to Blizzard’s stellar handling of faction balance, plus too few people participating overall.
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PUG raids above normal are gold carries, thanks to Blizzard’s stellar introduction of the WoW token. Plus, you guessed it, too few people participating overall.
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PUG M+ are raider io or gold carries. Thanks to Blizzard having no sensible ranking / queuing of their own (hi to elitism and inevitable player-made “solutions” that end up benefitting few at the cost of many), and thanks to the token. Plus, yeah, thanks to too few people participating overall.
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Pet PVP is a desert, same people playing with each other. Thanks to Blizzard’s stellar handling of pet PVP which they just left to rot with no additions apart from new pets and no changes apart from a couple of small nerf/buffs for years. Plus, yeah, yeah, thanks to — say it with me — too few people participating overall.
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Auction items move slower than ever with big portions of the market nearly freezing. Thanks to Blizzard’s stellar handling of auction bots which are allowed to proliferate for years. Aaaaaaaaaaand. Aaaaaand. You know what’s coming. Aaaaaand thanks to way too few people participating overall.
Etc, this list is incomplete.
You are going to be hit, it’s just a question of time. In fact, you likely are already hit, you just didn’t pay attention or thought that was acceptable.
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I don’t PvP, wouldn’t have a clue about rankings, not something I have any interest in. Can’t really comment.
I main Horde, can’t really comment but leaderboards are following similar pattern to Uldir so far
I don’t struggle to find PuGs, many are listed in group finder. Not finding this an issue. However raiding with guilds is more enjoyable for me.
Personally not finding M+ an issue. If people struggle to find groups, join communities, guilds, do them with friends etc.
I hate PvP even in pet battle format. Never taken part, it’s got the lowest uptake of all pet battling aspects. It’s always been an issue from day one. I remember MMO Champion did one of those pull data things and people just don’t like Pet Battle PvP, very few have achies in it. Nothing they do will make it appealing to me so I’m not sure how they can make it appealing to the playerbase.
As someone who is on one of the busiest servers in the game I can’t say this is an issue. We really had the AH and GB running at a snails pace and was frequently unuseable. It’s current state is fabulous in comparison so maybe this is an issue I just can’t notice because previously it just would not work.
My comment was aimed at the fact that I can go in LFD/LFM and find a group for a rare, a dungeon, an M+, a raid etc and they are listed and I can go do them. Or I can list and fill my own group.
So for those purposes the game is well populated and working well.
I understood that you meant that. I am saying this all was working much better before because we had significantly more people plus didn’t have many of the braindead changes which Blizzard implemented (I mentioned a few big ones above, some are more difficult to call braindead for the players, others easier, but they are pretty braindead on average).
Here is a quick example: try assembling an achievement group for Legion mythic raids and see how long this takes. In prior times this was a matter of logging in to a specialized site and then you’d have a list of like twenty raids for your region / faction for the next week from which you’d just pick. Now? Well, try it and post how it goes.
That the game is still big enough to not feel it bla bla bla bla bla is mostly an illusion now. You can mostly already feel it whatever you do.
I’m not sure I’d expect a lot of takers for an achievement run for an old expansion raid. I will go look in the finder though.
Thinking about it why would you do any achie run in mythic? Why not normal?
And previously this was easy as cake. Which is my point.
I have only ever done groups during the current expansion those raids were in. Haven’t done all but there are lots of runs for old raids. I can’t ever recall there being many achie runs for a previous expansion.
Cool. You are playing since when?
I started playing this game in The Burning Crusade.
Why?
To understand why you don’t recall many achievement runs.
Since you are playing since TBC, that must be because you didn’t pay attention. Like I said, there were third-party sites organizing these things - with huge numbers of these raids, and not just limited to raids or even achievement runs either - before. Specifically during Cata, MoP, then it started dying in WoD and in Legion it died for good. Why? Well, the usual story. Too little interest because of a couple of Blizzard actions and because the game shrunk too much and whoever was left was not enough to support this activity.
You mean the undying and immortal runs in naxx? Besides that I can’t remember any achievement runs that wasn’t hard mode. Do we count hard modes like 3 drake and ulduar stuff?
I didn’t play too much after wotlk so I don’t know what happened after it.
I have done many achievement runs. And most of them while that raid was current in that expansion.
I like how what you see is fact and what I see is wrong.
Cause no Alliance are queueing up. Go merc and you get one instantly.
There were achievement runs for all old raids and for all current raids as well. There were even series of these runs because sometimes an achievement required you to kill the boss several times - if you go to the first run, the raid leader would usually give you prio on the successive runs, etc. There were runs for mounts / transmog and everything else. There were PVP runs. There was a lot of what we don’t have now. We won’t have that either. Because there are too few people and because the game is apathetic, it is going nowhere and is in heavy decline and everybody feels it.
You said yourself that you “can’t ever recall there being many achie runs for a previous expansion” - that’s a direct quote from your post. I explained to you why you can’t recall that. There were plenty of achievement runs for previous expansions before. You don’t recall them because you were not paying attention. Perhaps because you were mostly doing achievement runs when content was current. You are being super defensive for zero reason.
When achievements were first introduced there was huge interest in clocking things off and lots of guilds too went back and did old stuff. At the time one of the hardest things was finding people who had heroic TBC dungeons unlocked. They’ve long since removed the need to be attuned (it was a rep grind to buy access in most cases).
However other than the current expansion I’ve not really seen many old runs for old achies in expansions gone by. Most people have them or do them in very small groups unless they require you to specifically have a certain number present.
I simply don’t agree with your take that there were always lots of runs on old content. So I am not finding them missing now either. I’m not being defensive.
Last expansion there were lots of runs for raids from that expansion. That is when there is the most interest for those achievements. I don’t think anything has changed. You think they have.
Just difference of opinion.
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You are wrong. I saw them. There were plenty. You not seeing them is on you. Let’s end this exchange, you are wrong, period. It’s not a difference of opinion, it’s you not knowing about something.