This is the only game where players are allowed to track other people cooldowns in their screens. Why do pvp players feel the need to have all this information displayed in their faces when they could just mentally track it like any other professional gamer of every other game ever?
Do you guys feel the need to min max to the last millisecond every move you do? Cant you just live with the fact that you can guess more or less what is off and what is not?
Someone explain to me how this game came down to this level?
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because the amount of CDs in a regular 3vs3 match are incredible high. No other Game is 3vs3 where every class has 30 different abilities.
Also if you would remove that option some specs would benefit way more from it than others.
In general the game is way way less CD dependent compared to SL.
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if u think addons are cheating u need different game, objectively stated no offence
and like were said to u no other game with pvp have 30 cds and procs u need to track
on another case i know one priva which banned addons and they lost half of their players and now its dead and they ruined their own server by doing it lol
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So youre saying you need 30 CD trackers for each class on your screen to play pvp?
The meta changes all the time i dont see how is this core to the game.
Wouldnt this kinda support the idea that you dont need this overwhelming amount of CD trackers?! Honestly i can remember who used defensives who did burst and i work around a minute to two minutes for them to have them again, i still struggle to see who trincket( there is no obvious animation for it) but if i know the animation of your defensive i know that on that minute or two you cant defend. Is not that hard is just odd that you as my enemy know to the second when i cant defend so you never get caught by surprise ever! Even when pressure is on top of you, you wont get carried on because you know exactly where your enemy stands!
I just think addons that expose your opponent CDs take the element of judgement away. You have total control of what you can and cannot do, takes the emotional element away.
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u lost me on the emotional elements, i have emotional reactions each day even with addons to the game 
but reasons for addons on wow was explained clear and hence they stay
well is part of the game too i dont see where is the admiration.
they shouldnt mostly because you really need to put the work to get into it and most new player will just not bother, and if does not appeal to new people i would not be so sure about ââthey stayââ
addons will stay
being able to know when two melees + rshaman that are running at you having kicks ready is a crucial information that nobody can track in their heads. In addition to stuff like reflect, offensive cds and CC + teammates CDs(which is huge in a a lobby where i am not in voicechat with my mates).
I personally think the game is more enjoyable if you know these things or being able to track them. Can understand different opinions on that though.
classes that dont really need stuff like CD/kick trackers or Dr trackers are mostly melee zug zug combs/specs that just run at a target whole game.
Idk if its benefitial for the game if we make it easier for these kind of playstyles.
depends on the class you play and the classes you face.
i mean thats good for you haha then just dont install the addon.
i think WoW Arena has still so many stuff you can learn and get used to. Its not like addons are making the game too easy. The learning curve is still extremely steep.
u dont need addons. ziqo for example has almost no addons.
the standard wow ui isnât made for pvp. you just dont see anything. add-ons are a must
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Any moba player will confirm this is false, in a single fight you can track who used what, i will say that will get you slighly above average âratingâ but is not impossible.
That means is not as hard as people seem to make it look, as not even all classes have them for you to track, mind you that they can simplify it, again i just find the addons ui ugly and very messy.
Im saying that some changes need to be made to stop the addon mess on the screen. As a new player starting pvp is installing them setting him up learning to read it while trying to play is a whole mess when this is suposed to be a better experience in the game in the first place.
there are like 4 different spells in MOBAs compared to WoWs 30+. You cant compare them at all.
And i doubt that you can memorize multiple enemy kick CDs in a 3vs3 lobby.
idk what you mean by that
nobody forces you to use these addons
a new player should focus on other things than enemy CDs. These are âadvancedâ abilities newer players should focus on in later stages.
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I would ban weakauras,cd tracking add-ons.
Some just canât play without them.In my opinion itâs would be better PvP with surprise elements and extra skill set requirement.
Wow is too scripted these days.
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Add-ons arenât cheating but they make game overly complex which keeps new players away.
At this point to setup ui with add-ons, aura tracks, arena frames and macros you need PhD or something.
Noone is going to do that. And without that itâs pretty much unplayable.
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Youre right i cant, animation is too subtle and happens in a very short period of time and probably the only one that should be allowed to be tracked, also because if you have two of the same class you dont know who did the kick if you miss the animation.
Well i know that yet it didnt stop me from having an opinion about it.
Well i did dig some tutorials and as a new player you have to instal at least two addons and have an almost programming degree in computers to set every thing up on top of the fact that you dont even know what exactly are you supposed to be tracking since most of these spells are not your concern for most of your pve experience. Just think about how most players would simply not bother.
This isnât a problem in the game. The problem is the addons arent baseline for the game. When theres 15 different things going on in a game, it isnt exactly as simple as you think to track things in your head.
Nobody is forcing you to use any addons if you can manage well without them. At least 70% of people who use most of those addons donât even look at them and end up clouding their UI.
If you are interested in getting the good stuff for PVP, check this post https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/5-minute-read-to-improve-in-every-arena-bracket/435403
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You canât.
Let me tell you difference addons make. During Shadowlands I was hardstuck, installed Gladiator Lossa, my rating increased by 300 points the same day.
WWmonk was meta backthen, they would oneshot you if they proc something in 2 seconds, I donât remember the name of ability but the addon told me when they got a proc, I reacted accordingly.
Addons are like buffs.
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were about to say of the âemotional reactionsâ of being shot for ww procs without addons or auras and how addons pretty much make the change on game, u nailed it 
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You made it sound like the addon is the real game and wow pvp is the mod that makes it more exciting.
Not that it makes you more exciting, just increases your awareness.
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