WoW without addons (it can save the wow)

For quite some time I was thinking to write this post. I wanted to revisit my idea over and over, and test it myself. And after all this time, I have this feeling that WoW would be much better game, if addons could not be used. So I was raiding without any addons, doing m+, pvp, leveling and more.

  1. Achievements would make more sense. Everything is harder to do, addons do not play the game for you, you play it, and everyone does the same.
  2. Gear would make more sense, because it would be harder to get.
  3. PVP would be more fun, because even with class imbalances that we always have, not being able to use addons would surely help to make difference between good and bad players.
  4. Gold value would increase
  5. Crafting would make more sense
  6. We would have real RPG, exploration, unknown (yeah YouTube is still available, always was)

Also, wow data and API should be closed, so that external sources can not use it. Like logs, rio and so on.

I would totally like to see WoW 9.0 where all of above is true, the addons are not possible. It would bring back exciting dimension to the game. Maybe they should just make UI more customizable, and that is it.

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If they actually made the standard UI usable for rated PvP then sure but right now its beyond bad.

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This has to be trolling.
Addons exist from day 1 what kind of bs is this just flag it as troll guys.
Everything what have you wrote is nonsense from 1 to 6 everything is just …

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So you’d rather manually keep track of all the boss’ mechanics, timers, phases and what not? Making preparation a real job (some already see it like that) to even do a casual M+ runs?

Or when doing arenas keeping track in your mind when every enemy’s cd is available, being used or on cd?

How do you see this, what addons ruin this atm? They don’t do much more than keeping track of CDs? A good player with addons is still better than a bad player with addons. Will be the same if you remove addons.

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I’m lost. I take it you mean addons like Gatherer?

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How does this work?

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That is exactly how addons work. They help you, but don’t play the game for you.

Are you sure you don’t mean bots?

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Dont understand why you have something against the usage of addons but i can tell you the more you dig in this games competitive content the more you need them addons.

I can hardly imagine you me or somebody can progress mythic raiding without the usage of any addons.

As we humans in real life evolved we use many things for making our life pace faster and better, so according to your theory we shall end even in RL whatever it helps us like get rid of the car and buy a dokey and feed it for 4 hours each day?

Dont think this demand of yours makes some sense, in the most respectful way off course.

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For most of the stuff you do not really need addons, everything is transparent, you just have to watch and use brain. And for some stuff that are not, it is because Blizzard is making it that way, counting on fact that people will use addons. It is a bad magic circle in that case.

Also, your analogy with RL doesn’t make sense. In RL you have better life by learning, education, working out, working hard. Car in RL is loot in game. In game you get better by learning, grinding and so on. That is how you make analogy, and that is why not having addons would be a good thing, imho… :smiley:

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Addons do not play the game for you, that’s a bot.

No it wouldn’t.

Addons would not make PvP worse, just peoples game.

Please elaborate on this as I think it’s rubbish.

Same as the gold reply.

That is so clearly untrue that I know you are trolling.

Guess what, all my addons do is make the game look better, the things you are describing are to do with Macros. You are wrong. Q.E.D.

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Ok, SO as a monk healer i have to zoom in my allies to see who is affected by reniewing mist and who is affected by essence font HoT and then start healing the non affected by mist targets so that all will take a heal.

That does not sound realistic.

In the most respectful way again, as i do mythic raiding and i casually run M+ 15 keys im pretty sure that if i loose my focus for like 5 sec max we will wipe. If you try this content im pretty sure that you will realize that nothing can happen without addons there.

Im a person that keeps addons to a minimal, not because i hate them but just because im not having the best pc but i ensure you the game cannot be played in high difficulties without them.

Go raid without DBM and them come back so we can discuss it.
Look at interface of raid leaders and Mythic world first chasers. Their whole screen is covered with addons that tell them what to do :smiley:

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You can do LFR without addons, you can be carried in an HC content without any addons but still you have 0 chance to go mythic without addons. Paladin boss is a parade, yeah u can do it but still i bet you will be blind locked without addons lol

And you just proved my point :smiley: Thank you so much.
Killing addons and necessity for them would be good for game, that is what I am explaining. And you just maybe did it better than me :smiley:

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It helps them keeping track of stuff…it does not tell them how to react or what to do.

Go lead a Mythic raid without any addons, enjoy.

I think that i will derail the comment section if i keep explaining you the same thing again and again while you fail to understand it.

Respectfully, its a content that you did not do therefore you cant know if addons are needed for completeing or competing on it.

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And I am explaining that game would be better if it is designed diffrently.
You also proved my point. Thank you, I love you guys :smiley:

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You would know how game can be better if you actually was playing it.

Cheers

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why we even talk with 65 lvl mage with 0 exp?

First of all that’s not all addons do. They are powerful tool I love because they allow to make my UI exactly how I want to. Addon API is the best feature in WoW.

In most of the cases people would just use guides constantly. Addon’s don’t play the game some of them just display you the information that is in the game in more useful way.

As for exploration and unknown. It’s people’s choice, addons that point you everything there is to find on the map are in no way necessary. I’ve never used those so I’m always surprised when I find something. As for the unknown, addons don’t kill it, datamining does.

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Cant say i ever felt like i needed add ons at all in the time i played wow except for threat meters back in the day. As long as you keybind stuff everything works fine imo. Its mostly just customizing things people want. I personally prefer to play games they way they were made. I also never installed mods in games like skyrim either

Screw stuff like RIO tho, if they actually get their information from blizz, maybe blizz needs to make the score an ingame thing instead of making (a 3rd party) add on a requirement.

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World of Warcraft without addons would make it impossible to clear mythic. People even top guilds rely on addons these days.

Although, Blizzard is implementing their own build in addons. They added the DBM thing default.

Thats not true at all it would still be possible but it would take alot more time because raids are beeing tuned with addons like weakaura in mind which makes it harder for people not using those Addons.