Wrath of cenarius

[Ondagubben-hellscream]

Anyone been able to theory craft not ( data not coming from p servers) on Live, what is your findings.

1. Proc rate
2. CD
3. What spells proc it pref warlock

And conclusion , decent or junk

[Bigkeg-twisting-nether (Bigkeg)]

In short it’s good if you spam quick spells or some AoE and no n normal ST it’s to slow with the procs unless you want to combine it with othet things for a burst. Seen a HPala comment that he likes it while maged were indiferent - worth only for aoe.

[Bewarê-frostmane]

Wrath of Cenarius not working on all channeled (Mindflay)?

Hello, some shadow priest have obtained the Wrath of Cenarius on Classic and realised it doesn’t proc of mindflay ticks. While it does proc on Arcane missiles ticks, both spells are 3sec (single target) channeled with 3 ticks. The only reliable info, coming from patch notes, says : Patch 1.10.0 (2006-03-28): Wrath of Cenarius will now trigger off all damaging spells. Patch 1.12.0 (2006-08-22): This item will now trigger from [Arcane Missiles]. Arcane missiles used to not proc Wrath of cena…

[Ondagubben-hellscream]

might also have a internal cd that in that case its a problem.
the proc rare on p server was 2-4% already pretty hard to trigger ( for locks) with shadowbolt spams. , Worked like a chat with channeled spells like hellfire… Its a big investing in time getting it, im not gona go rockbiters and the ring, rockbiters willl only give like 9 more spelldamage. but if the ring sucks balls im prob gona use my badges on that, need more data on it

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Ondagubben-hellscream

might also have a internal cd that in that case its a problem.

You sure internal cds are a thing in Classic? PPM was the go-to metric for proc rate in Vanilla, and also now for Classic. Pretty sure internal cds came later.

[Ondagubben-hellscream]

It would be super cool if it dosent have a internal cd but i don know ;/

[Nimerul-zandalar-tribe]

@Bewarê-frostmane

You sure internal cds are a thing in Classic? PPM was the go-to metric for proc rate in Vanilla, and also now for Classic. Pretty sure internal cds came later.

I used to think the same, but apparently ICDs are a thing after all. Something with Shadow Oil thatupsets retribution paladins.

It could actually be not ICD but that weird issue they blueposted about recently - that some items won’t proc if you’re on a GCD from using a spell (Coldrage Dagger or Frost Oil won’t proc if you had just cast Abolish Poison - these sorts of Viscidus things, also might be relevant to Nightfall not proccing a lot).

To OP, warlock discord may be a better place to ask.

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Nimerul-zandalar-tribe

It could actually be not ICD but that weird issue they blueposted about recently - that some items won’t proc if you’re on a GCD from using a spell (Coldrage Dagger or Frost Oil won’t proc if you had just cast Abolish Poison - these sorts of Viscidus things, also might be relevant to Nightfall not proccing a lot).

Yeah, that’s not an internal cd thing, it’s the GCD thing. There’s a data flag on certain effects, that prevents its activation during a GCD, which the testers had even tested as ret palas with that stuff.

[Senjiu-mirage-raceway]

I’m getting Rockfury bracers and nothing else with my warlock. The thing about these bracers is that I probably won’t replace them before Al’ar in Tempest Keep while the Ring isn’t as good as the AQ20 ring or the epic ZG ring.

[Ondagubben-hellscream]

for AOE i think the CC ring will be king

[Senjiu-mirage-raceway]

I’m not sure if it can proc off every single hit you land or if every tick (1 per second with hellfire, 0.5 per second with rain of fire) has one chance for it to proc.
I remember that on a private server I played on before classic was released the second version of that was was true, which made Blizzard, Hellfire and Arcane Missiles the best spells to use the ring with but even with those it wasn’t better than Ring of Spellpower from MC.
I’d be interested to hear if someone tested it in classic and checked if the chance of a proc is higher when hitting five targets with arcane explosion than when hitting 1 target with fireblast or not.