8 bosses in raid no drops…
8 mythic+ no drops…
Wb no loot
Whats going on? Ive never known an expansion like this!
people wanted loot to mean something…
so they removed it completely …
now you will have to farm like its a full time job to get minimal upgrade and make 1ilvl of progress…
in the current state of wow…
it is better to just unlock the myhtic+ vault section then not play the game for the rest of the week until they fix the drop rates.
people jumped on me for pointing this out … but i know this will effect the game badly regardless…
less loot = less fun …
anyone who says otherwise dont play for loot so should stay out of it as this doesnt effect them and their enjoyment.
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Raiders got salty that loot was easy to farm from M+, so they gutted everything to prevent top 1% raiders being full heroic geared on mythic raid release 
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People wanted to see the back of Titanforging (and Warforging). This is what Blizzard gave us. A system where less loot drops so that we have to keep going back.
If you found you got more loot last week in the raid it could be because it was bugged:-
Mythic will generally drop one item per group if the timer is missed and two if the key is timed.
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i asked my guildies if anyone got loot last week from normal only killing 5 bosses…
nearly half the raid linked items into guild chat… lol…(some people even got 3 items)
its not surprising they nerfed raid drops … no way so many items should of dropped on the first week thats even a lot in my eyes…
but 16runs of mythic+ to not get a single item… is pushing it too the other extreme.
i’d happily settle for 1 item every 5 runs if i have too … im not greedy i just dont want to spend 10+hours a day and not make no progress…
you got to be crazy to have that result and then go back for more.
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Well its dumb…
I dont mind 1 but of loot every other dungeon but the rng is terrible…
Some people are getting drops every run while others get nothing for a full days work of mythic+
My raid drop on my warrior this week was the neck i already had…
I literally cant progress my character even putting in time. If they wanna slow it down give us currency per run so my time isnt totally wasted 
Just seems like a massive waste of time now
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you know the currency thing like the tokens from wotlk … would make it all better… then at least after so many mythic+ cleared (timer more tokens/no timer less tokens) you would eventually get rewarded … maybe then… if people actually get drops in mythic+ they can choose to drop some tokens in order to loot it …
or save the tokens to buy something else.
probably would never happen…
but i would personally farm mythic+ constantly if it had a system like that.
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we did 4 bosses on normal in castle nathria with our guild mate and we got 4 items every time with 14 people and myself got nothing out of them while last week everybody got almost one item 
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They have made this valut thing to compensate. Just play the game more.
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Haven’t gotten a lot of loot yet myself but so much more that I have gotten is actually worthwhile
Before you got 10 pieces of gear for doing something, 11 out of those 10 pieces (RNG proc) of gear were scrapped for mats and then stored in a reagent bank
It also helps that I only run with guildies so no matter who gets loot it feels like progress and it’s not some Johny Rando making off with the loot
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you reap what you sow see some brain dead morons though loot in crapstic was great and wanted to go back to it then ion and his team of brainless monkey yes men listened to digital beggers called streamers and here we are 
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You know, when I read this, I always wonder if people with this mindset would play games like Tetris.
Edit: and yes, I understand the frustration.
I just get to be in the comfortable position to just play content I want to play, as I don’t see myself in raiding or pushing high M+/PvP for the near future, so I’m fine with having fun as my reward, and loot as a bonus.
Still, even when I was raiding with a guild, if something neither brought me joy nor upgrades worth the effort, I just didn’ t do it, and I think most here don’t do the kind of high level play where that’s not an option.
But yes, I understand it, even though I probably don’t agree.
When they said there would be less loot across the board i never thought they would reduce the amount of loot dropping so drastically. I thought we would simply have fewer choices so it would be less complicated and confusing for players.
And i for one absolutely HATE running dungeons only to get heck all. This is the best way to make players burned out, demoralized and dislike the game even more.
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What a BS, feels like a korean RNG lootfest. Did also finnaly do the raid on heroic, 4 kills anima 
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yes indeed
SL definetly feels like people are just wasting their time playing it.
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think one problem is that the covenant items that drop is also counted as loot, now meening instead of loot you get those at times, but at same time, they do not count for all bosses but just some.
we wouldnt - thats why we play mmorpgs - games that offer us contant feeling of progression and rush of dopamine coming out of it
SL doesnt feel like RPG anymore - it feels like instance symulator that doesnt give you any progression once you are 180 +
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Quality over quantity, i agree. How come im 190 then and still got a heroic main weapon… or Heroic boots…
Actually many of old-school korean MMOs I remember had craftable loot, and you didn’t NEED luck to progress. You could drop some lucky items, but drop rates were so miniscule that was like winning a lottery, because players were not meant to actually drop these things in large amounts. Lvling took months back there, but level was not luck - it was effort, in current WoW luck is directly converted to power and effort seems wasted without it.
My point is - current state of WoW progression system is way worse than many korean MMOs. You not only are a luck slave, but also progress is basically a welfare. Be obedient hamster - at the start of next week you will receive welfare loot for poor.
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The loot drop is terribad. Just doing several m+ and getting 35 anima each is a disaster.
Should be a currency for the ones without loot, so we could at least rng an epic every 2-3 run.
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