Warlock/druid/priest if you count holy/elemental
None of those other casters has mobility even close to that of a mage, besides you can still build for ring with a tradeoff , as it should be.
Mages acting like they are bad outside of rmp and mages have nothing to do with said comp being busted.
Warlock currently has more mobility than mage shaman has more utility boomy has around the same mobility what are you talking about?
You can still play shimmer if you want mobility itâs not like the spell is useless.
Mage got everything (except stun) ele sp would be happy to get your tools.
Dont compare your abomination of a class to ele mate you have a lot of tools to live as spriest you dont have mobility yes but you rarely have to cast have insane instant cast cc including void volley greater fade if you choose to take it mage does not have these things mages use blink because it gives a blazing barrier playing shimmer at the moment is trolling.
Shimmer is also a 21-25 second cd so nearly on par with warlock port so no warlocks have better mobility than mage.
If healer never dispel sure you donât need to cast, void volley isnât even used anymore the dmg is terrible and good player run out of the aoe.
Everyone was using shimmer and suddenly in s3 not anymore because ââ itâs trollingââ, blink stun effect is exactly the same as before and was even more strong before the nerf. Pretty hard to trust :s
How about you play the game before speaking about stuff you know nothing about void volley is currently been taken in 99% of the games especially when playing wps or with any meele the conduit nerf also was a massive nerf to shimmer btw if you didnt know shimmer was changed from 20 seconds to 25 seconds in shadowlands the conduit made it back to 20 its now too long of a cd to be worth taking + priest can cc the healer anyway so why would a mage take it.
They also nerfed tempest barrier by 50% so we need more uptime on the buff for survival you get 2 charges of shimmer yes but after them charges its a 23 second cd where as blink is 12 seconds.
Then if I know nothing and you know everything, feel free to explain why froffsy, wizk or even stah donât use it and play surrender psyfiend instead?
Also if people have a brain they can easily run out of aoe volley before they crash down.
Donât need to be mad mage will stay playable and you are the only one here thinking you need a buff
Erm, they do. Greater Fade feels ineffective into 90% of comps and with the current meta playstyle of SP where itâs all mongo and pumping damage, you can afford to drop Fade and play Psyfiend/Surrender/Void Volley.
You can play Fatâtiran mage and have stun as well if you desire huehheh.
Frost mage needs a massive rework right now adding deep freeze to the class and moving all damage to instant casts are you denying that?
Would hardly call rm bad in 2s, especially shadowlands season 3.
I imagine there will always be pickle on balancing the mage class because of how good rm is. Buff mages too much and you make one of the S tier comps even more powerful than it already is and have been for centuries
Now looking at how rogue is molding up to be in the next expansion again I would be toughtful of how much I would want mage buffed ![]()
We cant know anything for sure yet but we can assume mages are going to play rm and rmp comps and those comps are not likely to be performing bad
So i just said mage cant be played in rarely anything outside of rmp and you say RM is good did i read this right?
Nerf rogue and holy then and buff mage dont see why the mage class design should suffer because of 1 comp.
I know rmp is good i know rogue mage is good mage in 2s with anything else is a laughing stock.
If you try to say one more time that mages in 2s are bad Im out ![]()
It is strike two now
I gave you perfectly good analysis on why you cannot cry or ask for buffs too much as an mage player when you play the S tier comp both in 2s and 3s with the class already, if you have problem with that you need to take it up with blizzard
GL ![]()
Nerf rogue (1 dance, kidney CD increase/Step range reduction/1 charge/cd increase) and holy priest (chastise range reduction), give frost deep freeze, nerf shimmer/blink cd & I could live with that
@Aethana mages are absolutely horrific in 2s without a Sub Rogue or Outlaw rogue and when not playing with a rogue are only âgoodâ into VERY few matchups.
Never seen that tbh itâs seems way to Yolo for me but why not xD
Honestly, trust me. Play with a healer you can semi-trust and fully send it. Think Stahp even has a video somewhere after the buffs.
Mages are bad in 2s rogue mage in 2s is not an S tier comp please leave that would be much better for us this is about the class been fun i dont care how broken it makes rmp then they need to nerf holy or rogue dont they because we both know the only reason you have seen results in shadowlands is because of holy and BM hunter in 2s you should not give your opinion when you have 0 clue what the problem is with mage.
You know how broken holy priest has to be for you to be 2100 on holy and stuck 1870 on BM hunter? this has nothing to do with RMP tho its all mage that causes it.
Let me say it again
By buffing mage you make one of the strongest S tier classes for both 2s and 3s make the comps even stronger which they already are
That is the problem and what you need to tackle with instead of ask for mage buffs or complain about future talents in next expansion to come ![]()