Im not saying i need or dont, but stating that an expansion feature was added late doesnt justify anything really. And yes I agree it is that simply at level 80… just find 4 more people, but what about the alts that want to run sm, or zf, or maraudon, without paying 35g to the booster? I personally would LOVE to do old dungeons, and level up that way
If you want nochanges and they continue the cycle (Which they will) they aren’t going to just quit after Wotlk we need changes to keep the classic experience.
There is a reason why alot of us don’t play retail.
Looking for dungeon/Looking for raid in Cata killed the entire open world feeling/Immersion.
There is nothing wrong with actually talking to people to form a group.
The old content is destroyed by the 58/70 boost and boosting community(mentality of people). Even if there was a LFD system you would be in queue for over 2 hours to find a group for ZF. Believe me I loved to do BGs as lvl 30/40 meanwhile lvling, there are simply 0 BGs up below lvl 70 and this is Xrealmed even included Horde vs Horde / Alliance vs Alliance.
LFD isn’t gonna safe your low level experience to do ZF together with randoms.
And it goes without saying, of all my 12 characters at 70, my mage easily get into heroics, my pala tank doesnt need to look for more than 20 mins, my hunter outgear the content so hard with full tier 6, however, if I want to dungeon with my Rogue, or any non meta specc like ret, spriest, enh, warrior non tank, ive literally spent 3 hours getting into a group for Mechanar normal, on the most populated horde server, during phase 1 of tbc even. And yes I even went so far to make the group myself, and alltough they were more successful, the hassle of spending 40 minutes not playing the game, and gathering randoms is not engaging.
During the start it was fine. We went with guildmates as anyone would, but at one point, and as people level up alts at different paces, staggering max levels, you cant expect the guild to gear all your characters, nor should you expect to level your friends alts. This is where pugging comes into hand, and the toxicity of the community plays its role.
And get me right, im just as toxic as anyone else, cause if I get 8 whispers, from a mage, warlock, pala tank, priest healer, you bet I will take those any day over the ret, spriest and the rogue.
Its not black and white, and having no lfd at all is not healthy, as it keeps enforcing boosting, and more advertisment for boost in a alteady overpopulated world chat, lfg chat etc.
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Well, certainly the boost doesnt help, but the amount pf concenience the df adds to levling alts helps, especially since you are locked to 1 boost per account! I can not think of one player that only has 1 char max level in todays tbc. As most have 3+ characters. And only one of those were boosted, leaving atleast 40 hours of work put in to the other 2 characters. That time could either be put in a random lfg tool while questing, or getting boosted
I get you, in our wildest dreams we wish people just levelled the normal way and have a nice active open world with people doing dungeons at any level.
But that sadly won’t be the case, people already got 4/5 alts to level 70, and believe me none of these alts are levelled the normal way.
Almost all of them are boosted AFK standing in a dungeon letting some one els do all the work because that’s simply the mentality of the player base.
Most people got 10 thousands of gold and rather don’t put in any effort.
People aren’t suddenly going to enjoy the leveling process, every one is end game focused and the open world is basically dead.
LFD will make you sit in a infinite queue just like BGs at low lvl I can guarantee you even tho I rather would see it different also.
80% of the player base are people from classic vanilla that went to TBC and will move over to Wotlk.
The new players (this also happend at TBC early state) that came just for Wotlk quickly notice the community is way to min/max/hardcore and are quickly quiting cus aka ‘‘this wasn’t the Wotlk they remembered back in 2008’’.
It’s a sad reality. Eventually you will keep the old hardcore community that plays the game for 3+ years.
Funny how people interpretate words on how they fit their views 
My sentence about “things change sometimes” had nothing to do with #nochanges, but I guess you know better what I meant
But I will try to explain this, even though you will not even try to understand it:
What I meant is that people will continue whining and crying, and once we reach certain point in xpac (maybe even smth at 3.3.5) - blizzard might change their view regarding rdf and actually give it to players. And this is the part of “things change sometimes”, which refers to chaning blizzard point of view (but not the game itself). But ya, you know better what I think, do you? Or maybe it was a sentence to difficult to understand
As for my opinion - I have nothing against rdf, but I wouldn’t mind if it wasn’t in the game either. I am felxible enough to addapt.
As I remember (correct me if I am wrong) - you still needed to form a group manually for the most relevant dungens (PoS hc, etc.), and people usually asked for ~4k GS to join them
If this feature makes or breaks the game for you, i’m happy to tell you that an mmo alot like wrath exists, called Shadowlands, has LFD. You should try it.
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Likewise, if having RDF makes or breaks Wrath Classic for you there is always Season of Mastery. 
That seems to be doing well…
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Classic brain take btw. lmao it’s nothing of the sort.
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Why are you pretending as if i said that?
Wow, classic brain takes on the classic forums!
Swing and a miss, buddy.
Yeah, making new threads to repeat the same points in lieu of actually arguing in the older threads is probably not the best way to host a discussion. You basically said “I can’t win here, I better make my own circle jerk where everyone agrees with me!”
People are critical of LFD because all the reasons the malding OP has probably read but refuses to elaborate on in other threads and probably many more, generally speaking you can’t sit there, pretend an automated system doesn’t decentivize players from interacting and you seriously can’t pretend that LFD which pools every server together means that there will still be consequences for bad behaviour. This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the arguments had here but as someone that actually played this game for far too long I can tell you that LFD effect was slow at first but gradually as players no longer need to communicate or rely on each other as they once did, as soon as they’re easily replacable in an infinite pool of players to draw from it has a knock on effect.
Now if you want LFD because you prefer streamlined convenience all the more power to you but stop LARPing this isn’t the case.
Blockquote RDF came out in 3.3, it wasn’t even part of the original WOTLK experience. If you want queues with anonymous bots and no community just play retail.
ICC wasn’t out at start of wotlk remove it now also…
mindblowing the thought process of some people… you don’t want to use it, don’t!!! other people who want it should be allowed to since it was part of the game not like personal arena rating
‘‘If you don’t like LFD then just don’t do dungeons.’’
Pulling out the real galaxy brains takes right there.
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learning to read is a plus… but for big brain people like you I’ll spell it out “you don’t want to use dungeon finder, don’t! just walk to dungeons and get your group up the old fashion way”
Lmao. Group up with who? Are you actually suggesting that it will be possible form groups outside the LFD tool once it has been added? People aren’t willing to get less reward for more effort, and understandably so. It is either dungeon finder or no dungeon.
It’s infuriating that you would berate the thought processes of others while your own is obviously so flawed.
When they changed their philosophy to #SomeChanges I never imagined that they would remove a major feature like this. I would understand if it was something that was in WOTLK but at least 90% of players agree that it was bad so makes sense for it to go away like spell batching.
But in this case its almost the opposite where it seems like 70-80% ( including me ) of people were looking forward to the LFD system and now they want to remove it just because they think that ,enough players are cheering for it, as a dev put it on twitter? If like 20-30% of people are ,enough, to worsen the game for the other 70-80 then I just dont know what to say…This whole situation is just madness imo.
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dude you’re here just to contradict/troll people or you’re mentally challenged… no other way to put it so just talk to a mirror I’m out
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truestory no other way to put it