So RDF ruined the socials did it? All of a sudden players just stopped talking, like the moment they got RDF thats it no more chit chat in dungeons?
Pull the other one!
Players stopped chatting so much as they grew and their lives changed.
Right now in classic/tbc you can use chat/group finder/addons to get 4 random strangers and go do a dungeon without saying much at all.
General group forming social experience,
/w random pala “Hi are you a tank?”
/r “sorry no”
/w random pala “Hi are you a tank?”
/r “sorry no”
/w random pala “Hi are you a tank?”
/r “sorry no”
/w random pala “Hi are you a tank?”
/r “sorry no”
and repeat, its not exactly a soul changing experience and makes the game great.
If RDF is out then i defo wont give wrath classic the same time and energy as i’d intended on doing.
Don’t forget that WoTLK was designed on making it easier to level alts, trying to get a group together to do dungeons with is going to be a hassle and extremely counter-productive.
I’ve said it before but the entire argument that LFD is going to ruin the server community is such garbage when they are also offering level 58/70 boosts that trivialize leveling and probably impact the social element of leveling even harder.
LFD came with the last patch (not counting ruby sanctum whatever the hell that raid was supposed to be). Why not keep it like it was? This change is retarded and both LFD lovers and haters can agree on that.
Blizzard goofed up as always.
I wouldn’t mind having LFD during the latest phase of Wrath. So it’s gonna be #NoChange.
But i can stand players over here who make it sound like it’s gonna be nearly impossible to find a group without LFD…
We were able to find dungeons group easily back then because : dungeons are easy, DK can tank them in every specs, dual spec and probably on smaller servers than nowadays because layering wasn’t a thing back then + hardware restriction + we were able to find dungeon in Classic, TBC without LFD.
I think you’re underestimating how much some of the lower-populated servers are struggling at the moment.
I’ll use a very easy example to make my point;
How long does it currently take to find a group to do a dungeon while you are leveling?
It’s virtually impossible, but at the same time there are mages standing by to boost you through X dungeon for gold just so you can do your quest, get your key and move onto the next part of the questline.
Using the argument that community is a big part of classic there is nothing social about standing AFK in a instance while a max level mage kills everything in it and you have to pay him for it, it’s not fun and neither is it convenient.
There have been so many changes since Classic released that even using the tag #NoChanges is cringeworthy.
It’s hilarious that the argument is that the RDF is somehow going to kill the community while Blizzard sells level 58/70 boosts which also impact the social element for people who are leveling their characters and are looking for other players to do dungeons with.
Spamming in the LFG chat for an hour to get a spot only to find out they don’t need my class and get me kicked isn’t a good way to spend my time. I’ve seen arguments where people tell me that I should look for a guild then and while I appreciate that piece of feedback I am in a fantastic guild that I raid with, the issue is that due to work I don’t play on regular hours which makes leveling an alt challenging, RDF would solve this issue.
I completely get that people want the community to stay the way it is, but at the same time Blizzard also needs to find a way to enable players to level alts, especially when we are getting an expansion that adds heirlooms and is all about the convienence of leveling.
I do and i think a lot of Classic issues come from bad server/faction management.
LFD doesn’t solve this. Players are getting boosted because so many players want to skip the leveling, don’t want to play or because they bought the boost.
I think they don’t need to. Wrath is alt friendly (and was even prior 3.3.0) because you reach the “out of content” phase really fast. There isn’t a lot of things to do progression wise.
Average to HC must get some alts.
Don’t get me wrong i’m not against LFD as it was part of Wrath and i’m a solo players who level all the classes (so it greatly benefit me) but i want to experience Wrath without LFD and i’m sure that it will be enjoyable.
The RDF tool came out on December 8 2009 and was in the expansion for mostly half it’s life cycle. It’s quite an oversight to say it wasn’t part of the experience when the expansion jumped from 10 to 12 million players during that year alone.
Massively disappointed by this decision, me and my group of friends (about 15) that were mega hyped for wotlk classic and started doing prep in tbc months ago decided not to play it anymore because of this - BUT MUH SOCIALIZING I NEED TO WHISPER SOMEONE TO INVITE TO GROUP SO I FEEL CONNECTED, yeah buddy
You do realise that RDF (random dungeon finder) was added in 3.3.0 and woltk started with 3.0.0? That means RDF should only be added when ICC comes, not from the start.
You do realise that up until this point, we have played a last patch client, having all expansion features from the beginning? You know, expansion features, like guild banks, profession changes, end balance characters?
On blizzards own bost they claim that the dungeon finder is a Expansion feature they are not gonna add this time, meaning it would be categorized a 3.3.5 client with phases segmentet into p1-p5
People think they need rdf, but they really don’t. It just turns the game into “find 4 other bots to complete pve dungeon”. Might as well just add “looking for 4 bots” and just let players play with 4 AI bots.
Good compromise would be modern LFG tool. Easy to sort groups, easy to start ones, etc.
Not necessarily. Modern LFG tool as a DPS (even with the recommended rio) is just spam queuing for 5 groups, wait to get declined, spam queue another 5 groups, wait to get declined… it would be even worse with Wotlk since non-meta DPS would never get taken.
