You guys are not talking enough about TWW class design

I made this thread on GD a few weeks ago: The War Within: we summon too much stuff

Most classes and specs in TWW get RNG procs of damage and RNG summons 24/7, passively, as part of their normal rotation.
I expect a lot of random spikes of damage turning arena into an RNG fiesta during season 1, if not the entire lifespan of this expansion.

Death Knights also look they’re going to be extremely obnoxious.
Thoughts?

very thoughts

TWW doubles down on current PvP issues. Which is not surprising, most of them are tailored for M+, which has been the bane of PvP ever since its introduction. Haven’t pre-ordered TWW, it looks really bad from a pvp standpoint (and I just watched the “pvp” Q&A which basically says “we don’t give a damn about PvP anymore and we’re not even gonna pretend we do”(first part is nothing new)), coupled with the “epic” edition that grant people who pay a 3 days headstart (in an MMO). Don’t want to support this so they maybe don’t do it next xpac.
Back to SC2 and DOTA for me during TWW, hopefully next expansion will be great (copium) because I love playing this game every once in a while. But I figured that as long as I’m paying a sub i’m literally supporting blizzard to keep on edited by moderator on us, so even if i’ll miss the game I’ll try to send blizzard another message, however tiny my voice is.

Edit : typo.

It’s a time waste to cry, discuss or give feedback about PvP.
Blizz don’t care, they are not interested in give us a balanced PvP Game.

But to name another stupid thing: Warriors with the Slayer Talent Tree are allowed to use Storm Bolt and Pummel while Bladestorming. I bet caster specs will love this.

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The last thing we need is for Bladestorm to reflect all magical spells for its duration and we’re good to go.

Can imagine a whole premade of deathknights summoning their riders of the apocalypse cleaving us down with disease and necrotic magic upon us and see how the community react to that, obnoxiously hillarious if I may add.

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They will also have RNG AMS too which will remove magic effects like a cloak of shadows lmao.

I honestly kinda didn’t even bother to look into class design for TWW. Lost all hopes for future design of retail wow.

But I came across a dk preview and ngl everytime I think it cannot get worse they somehow manage to surpass.

Not sure what was that but bro had like 20 npcs, all the npcs from Naxxramas. On mount immune to slows, knocks. Permanent AMS that has a rng proc? 6 DnDs on the ground.

Looks awful.

What is this trend of every class having 10 npcs to play for them. Dhs should summon baby Illidans all backflipping and shadowmelding. Dogsht game.

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lets not forget that DK is super squishy.

meanwhile you got warriors that have everything from Best defence to best mobility for a plate class

the bm hunter for meele players

how about that mage is getting a stun?

new m+ designe

idk why stuff like this have to exist, but i think for m+ so warris can do dmg, and in the same time kick a mob

true

this is for the next expansion, u will see it coming!

Waiting room for hunter rework besides typo fixes in talent titles

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Having zero changes to the core class and spec talent is mildly put…concerning.

And when I say zero, I mean literally no changes to hunter besides releasing hero talents, of wich only Dark ranger sounds remotely interesting, Pack leader is decent but nothing special, and Sentinel…my head hurts just for reading it. Sentinel tree has nothing at all that I expected…

Ele not looking that great either, but it had the advantage that both class and spec tree are better than hunter, but seems the devs are podgeonholding us to a certain element/playstyle. Shamans also had zero zero changes…

I have big concerns about demo and the diabolist tree. When more demons on the field.

Hellfire is the go to for destruction, at least what i think. The only drawback is the cap stone Talent at the end. Changing Chaos Bolt to Ruination. Having a Chaos damage ability Changing to Chaos damage… Great.

Affliction is maybe getting the best changes.

I can’t judge without having played it. Personally I prefer a fun class design. You can tune dmg/healing at any time, but you hardly can tune toolkits during an expansion!

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It is to make up for the fact that Bladestorm cannot be cancelled now. If this change is true then it is actually a REALLY good change.

Uncancellable Bladestorm is easily one of the worst ideas Blizzards class team ever came up with.

adds passifs spells when there are already too many, no need to argue it’s bad

the gameplay no longer makes any sense, the sacred power points, combos…

Yeah we should prepare too stay long

i think that bladestorm is in the burst “cd” from warri Avatar is even worse lol

well they also could simple revert the change and make it cancellable, idk why bladestorm have to be in a burst spell

what should i say, wild attunement joined the room

na be srs, dragonflight destroyed some classes really hard gameplay wise

Making bladestorm cancellable again would be a much healthier change for everyone in general, i guess the pummel usage is there to help but storm bolt during BS seems completely unnecessary and uncalled for (probably another mythic+ change).

still, i dont get it why they cant just make it cancellable again, it was always core mechanic of this ability. Seems like they really want to drain the remains of this class’s soul first with removal of stance dancing, sword and board and other stuff, going through charge stun (rip), heroic strike (never forget) and now with this ehh…idk who’s responsible for making all these changes but he’s not great at his job…all of this just seems so out of touch, and just…why?

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i think after corona and the high amount of layoffs, they hired walmart employes, it´s a complete joke what is going on currently

alone when u see clasc changes like bm dk in the next xpac, it´s just a april fools joke on a new level

just makes no sense to me why u cant, it´s like a mage cant cancel iceblock anymore, but maybe because of some pve andys doubbleclick often the bladestorm/cancelaura macro in m+