You just destroyed destro locks (PVP)

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Hi user! This is your normal crying post. Please continue to read…

Can I know why you changed “backdraft” (destro warlock) talent from original wotlk to “YOUR” version of this talent?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/980745482961834044/1025881928177561620/WTF.png

Basically they changed “Backdraft” talent that now it consumes charges even on instant casts like shadowfury, shadowburn, shadowflame.
This change was not in original wotlk and it should be reverted before more people who leveling with afflication, actually start playing destro…and they will be horrified that you changed core and iconic mechanics to this monstrosity what we have rn.

  1. nobody plays pve as destro
  2. pvp players will find this change more then just annoying desing
  3. imagine playing class you enjoyed back then…
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3.3.5 talent changes.

We’ve known for 14 years it’d be like this O_o

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can u clarify ur off topic statement Jeynar pls?

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Do you know that there was former version of that talent?

During wotlk beta it was working just fine and talent was as I posted via picture “of your next three destruction…”. but at launch they made update/change of this talent - so every destro button will take you backdraft away.

Thanks for contributing this post tho…

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he was asking why they have changed the talent all of a sudden, I fully understand that for pvp locks it is unpleasant update tbh…

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Wow dude that really sucks

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I just dont get it. I was looking forward to play WOTLK again - it was the only reason why me and my whole guild returned to retail clasic… we have tried shadowlands but it was such a disapoiment… Basically what have blizz done with this game is reprehansible I am not afraid to say…
But I am starting to have the seconds thoughts… At first they decided not to turn on RDF - why? What was the reasonable explenation - ppl can find the group via group finder anyway and its the same only worse option of RDF… now I read they modified talents which is affecting gamepley of warlock seriosly in a negative way…
The whole wotlk this talent particular was for “three next destro” and it was not for “three non-channeled…” I just dont get it how they dare to modify the game so drastically :frowning: Who knows what else they have “updated” … more I know more I am convinced to stop paying …

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RDF wasn’t added in the original WOTLK until the very last phase, in patch 3.3.5. at the very end of the expansion. People used it for like 2 or 3 weeks.

I’m having no problems finding or making groups via LFG and I’m neither a tank nor a healer.

RDF is not the same as LFG as it doesn’t let you choose who you group up with. With RDF you just get thrown together into a dungeon with 4 complete randoms you can’t even kick if they have poor gear.

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I’m sure it is just mistake noone sensible would make such a devastating blow to destro warlock players.

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I am aware of that - but what we have now is not as it used to be back then… now it actually is 335 already in progress … which was not back then

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So what is your problem with the talent exactly? Do you use hellfire or rain of fire a lot in pvp usually?

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Problem is that shadowfury and shadowburn will take 1x buff of blackdraft away.

Let me try to explain it in following situation.
Situation: - Conflagrate (3x backdraft)
- Shadowfury (2x backdraft)
- Chaos bolt (1x backdraft)
- Shadowburn ( And now u hardcasting every destro spell)

Please tell me if its readable. It is getting kinda late :slight_smile: .

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It is to me.

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I see. Just cast shadowfury and shadowburn before you cast conflagrate then I guess.

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Now you can waste the 3 stacks easy:

Inmolate - Conflagrate - Shadowfury - Shadowflame - Shadowburn (3 instant)

Imagine changing one of the most iconic talents in the spec just because someone doesn’t know how it works and he/she/it was scared about hellfire or rain of fire, 2 useless spells.

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But your GCD is still reduced by 30%. So even if all charges are consumed, you won 30% GCD on 3 spells and you casted Shadowfury/Shadowflamme/Shadowburn way faster than someone else.

If this was the 3.3.5 original version of Backdraft, everything is fine. And Destrolock is busted in PvP anyway so don’t worry that much.

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Oh I see what you’re trying to say now. You should probably amend the op by saying that shadowborn, shadowfury and shadowflame consumes backlash charges which isn’t intended behaviour. Most people won’t recognize this :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’ve looked around a little bit and I don’t think it was in the original WotLK 3.3.5a patch.

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That was great idea with updating OP. Hope its now more clear even for people unaware of warlock mechanics.
I still want to keep OP short. So people actually read that.

Thanks!

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You should probably mention it was not like this in the original WotLK. So, people don’t just assume it was like this back then.

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