The solution will always be how it was in MOP withh 100% separated gear.
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>>199 ilvl
kappa?
Lets ignore the fact that you can gear faster as a pvper?
If you can get 2100 cr youāll be fully geared 226 faster then 99% of pure mythic raiders.
Why do PVEāers always seem to believe they have the short straw and are being victimised when they play the easy content?
You get to 197 item level in PVP and thatās it unless you delve into arena.
Whilst you pveāers can do dungeon spam each day and get 200+ item level items every day with zero skill.
PVP is rewarded with the choice as it takes more skill and doesnāt fight scripted bosses.
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PvP is scripted tho, the enemy used a offensive cd, use a defensive cd / Line of sight / cc, its less scripted than pve but lets not pretend pvp is not scripted.
And you can get higher ilvl in pvp without doing arena by RBGs also.
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Its not. Only because people doing it its not scripted. You always can do the big brain move and not use cds and die 
Right, because getting to 2100 is a walk in the park right? KEKW
yes. Itās not that hard to get.
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Yep iām about giving up RBGS at 1.65k because itās just Mythic raiding guild premades with like 1 bit of PVP gear, the PVP gear system is good but the PVP gear vs PVE gear is crap.
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From my experience, Iām getting perhaps 0 to 1 pieces from full raid clear.
I havenāt pvpād much yet, but usually pvp is end-game for me when I have nothing left to do in pve.
Currently many of my guildies in our raids are doing pvp to complete their gear set, because gear simply isnāt dropping from pve content.
That is why you see so many pve players currently.
I understand why theyāre doing it, but it is really crapping on the experience for people who just want to play PVP - like me on this character.
Really the fault lies with Blizzard, they need to bring back PVP power or something, and just make PVP gear useless in PVE, that way they wont try to farm it. (While also making PVE gear nowhere near as good in PVP)
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Decided to do some rated pvp to get conquest cause my BiS trinkets are from there. Itās actually ridiculous tbh even though I have no clue what Iām doing, unless my opponent is similar ilvl they will just die lol.
I do think at this point though you should be getting better gear through pvp. Now the covenant campaign is done and the conquest cap is like 3k now it should also be much faster than PvE would be.
Look at my gear - itās as high as I can go now pretty much unless I can hit 1.8k CR, which is extremely difficult because of all the PVE guilds climbing and like you say, just getting rekt by people with higher ilvls.
PVP ILVL is hard capped by bracket - influx of PVE guilds spamming ez wins with their high ILVL has made 1.6-1.8k Literal Hell for pure PVP people. If I had gotten to 2.1k in the first week it wouldnāt be a problem but here we are!
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two rated kotmogu lost due to pve guilds with 35k+ hp each
they had rate from either 2 or 3 wins only 700ish something
also one of our locks said their 5/10 mythic raiders wtf?
if ppl followed objectives+heal focus id be 1,8k by now but nah after 1,6
i lost alot because
they prefer to freeload honor by doing nothing
are you stoopid ? look who has best gear in game highest ilvl. YES PVPERS just look at those discusting 233. Yes if you bad at pvp you will newer get it and still will be farmed by 1k cr noobs. GET GOOD.
I suck at pvp too and my pve ilvl has nothing to do i just get destroyed in arena by actual pvpers. BG isnt pvp its Casual smash.
You are playing a terrible class for PvP thatās why you arenāt getting any higher.
Just play a better class where I level matters and learn it and wreck people.
Why do you think people have gone FOTM this season?
Ok so, little tip for you here.
When you are replying to a post that is from over a month ago which was when pvp players were locked to a single conquest piece and 184 gear MAX while raiders were running around in CN hc gear, itās probably wise to not ramble a bunch of nonsense about the current state of gearing, especially when you donāt seem to know that only a weapon can go 233, until this very week we were still rocking 184 pieces in some places, that is now 197, 226 is our ceiling for our gear.
It would be ESPECIALLY wise to also not ask someone if they are stupid when you cannot even spell that word.
Donāt force your stupidity on the rest of us please.
if you did raid you probably already know that is omega unrewarding and you should pray to blizz gods if you get 1 peace of loot which has proper stats, while in pvp you just buy what you need. And thats why Raid gearing is garbage.
Yes for Mythic+ its diferent storry, but at the same time doing +15 is truly hard i havent done it by my self i nearly poooooped that i timed my +14
Preach talks abit about reason why raiders are pvp-ing.
I think that equally hard content should give equally good gear. Now this is subjective but I think that random bgs are as hard as m0 I mean not hard at all clear day or 2. Heroic raids are like 1600-1800 raiting and m raids are like 2100 to 2400 raiting. If those guys did harder content in their pve branch they should have better gear than you. You did not get 1600 to get equal gear with them.