Doing normal lvl (ilvl152) as tank… in plaguefall, others are lower xp lvl so want to skip bosses for fast xp… I don’t as I need gear (3 more ilvls to do heroics)… I only said ‘I need gear not xp’… they voted to boot me without a word.
So I get booted and now I have a 30 minute wait because “You recently deserted a group and may not queue again for:”
What a stupid stupid stupid system, stop sacking all your employees and make a program better than a noob programmer could build. From a Senior Developer!
It’s that way because when there was no penalty for being kicked people just refused to leave dungeons/groups they didn’t like so they could be kicked with no penalty.
As for speaking in PUGs there’s always a risk to run into situations like this if you don’t like the idea don’t PUG. Find a guild/community and play with them.
And how would you suggest it works, without allowing afkers and griefers to stay in groups. Not the code, the way it would work. I’ve thought about this before and couldn’t come up with a better system that’s fair for all, not without it costing 10s of millions or more.
I’ll bet people can easily pick holes in your solution.
Well personally I feel we should be able to appeal against it, and the accusor if found guilty of unlawful kicking should potentially face the gallows.
I agree…its problem with only one dungeon in this expansion…Plaguefall…why the hell we don’t need all bosses to get finish bonus there. Other dungeons need full list and there is no problems. Last time i had run with ppl who wanted skip even on hc mode. This shouldn’t be allowed. This dungeon need fix.
Out of curiosity, why?
I mean even if you do just bg or dungeon not wandering out to do quests, you outgrow them in, what, half an hour?
Before reaching 60, you don’t need gear, you need xp
After 60? normal dungeon crawling is the worse possible way to gear up, Craft, AH, HC, PvP - especially pvp is way better, and expecting 4 other people to do your way who do them for leveling is a bit selfish…
just buy 168 gear from AH + darkmoon card + 168 - rings . whole cloth set will be like 10k and will save you ton of time. and then push campaign for AP gear.
the deserter debuff was implemented to avoid letting the kicked re-join that one specific group. Nowadays, there’s an internal, hidden, temporary blocklist functionality (for example, when you report someone in a battleground) so the deserter debuff wouldn’t really be required anymore if that one was used instead.
in order to avoid giving people the ability to ruin a lot of player’s experiences on purpose by joining dungeons and trolling them, one could still add the deserter debuff, but for example after the second votekick of the day.
Another one sided story as told by the POV of the “victim”.
I see these threads somewhat frequently and the more you get into it the more you uncover purposely left out details, such as “I called them stupid too, but that’s it” or “yeah I ninjaed one groups so what”.
Don’t even know how you skip the first boss, he’s standing right there, you’re the tank, just pull him.
It takes longer to find a new tank than it does to kill the 1st boss. Your story is missing details.
It’s perfectly plausible that the other 4 were leveling and wanted to go fast and as soon as they saw the problem they wanted to get rid of it.
In other situation I would have agreed with you because those kind of posts usually have more to it, but Plaguefall Is a problem because everyone those it skipping on normal.
They can simply put a wall into first 2 bosses room, problem solved and you play the dungeon normally.
While I agree that removing a player who wants to play the game feels wrong, gearing from normal is absolutely pointless. You can buy 168ilvl gear from the AH for really cheap. The amount of time it takes to farm the gold for this gear (which is both higher ilvl and you can choose its stats/ also has sockets) is much lower by gold farming compared to farming the gear in normals.
Don’t give the players the bonus XP for doing a random dungeon if they skipped a boss, or just require all bosses to be killed before finishing the dungeon.
But that is counterintuitive.
A DPS that ninja pulls? absolutely. A tank? No way am I voting to kick a tank if I’m looking for a quick run.
I just don’t believe OP continued on as usual.
I think he argued in chat and refused to continue until the other 4 players met his demands.
It’s 4v1, sometimes you need to adapt, even if what he wanted was also justified, it’s the dynamic you chance when playing with randomly grouped players.
