Zul'jin for Warchief!

Well… not literally. But Zul’jin was a cool (and of course, sadly misused) guy, and his rise to power within the Amani is a classic. He challenged the Amani chieftains one by one, in a contest of their choice… and won them all, be it footrace, combat or whatever they chose. He provd himself worthy in their eyes, before being granted their consent to lead them.

…why exactly can’t we have that for the position of Warchief? In the past the Warchief of the playable Horde was just annointed by the last one. No wonder they sucked. The only one who go through his challenges was arguably Thrall, who at least did something to earn the loyalty of Darkspear Trolls and Bloodhoof Tauren.

Of course, we have the Council now. A democratic government… made from undemocratic peoples. The Horde consists of either tribal cultures like orcs, trolls and tauren, who follow a proven leader… and dictaturial regimes, like the elves, that aren’t really that interested in the consent of the governed. The council is just a bad fit. And that Blizzard’s character driven narratives certainly won’t pause for a leading character to get the consent of he council of leaders, it will be quite meaningless in practice anyways.

So let’s just drop the act and start auditioning. We don’t want just anyone, but someone who is clearly qualified. Someone who can outfight an orc, outwit a hunting troll, outlast a Tauren’s patience, outsolve elven riddles, and… erm, outgross an undead I guess? They’ll come up with something!

Even better, imagine every group setting up their test and allowing everyone (within reason) to try it. To prove worthy of their respect. But only someone who beats all the trials gets to lead. Until then… there is the temporary council, waiting for the one true king to pull the sword out of the stone.

Of course, this doesn’t fit the game. The game is about us, the player, and the player leading the faction doesn’t really work in Blizzard’s style of story telling. And standing around while someone else proves himself isn’t really that fun of an ingame activity, if the player isn’t doing all the work. And we can all see how the “Trials of the High King” turned out, which was Blizzard’s attempt to do something vaguely similar on Alliance side.
But we aren’t really restricted to the game, are we? There are novels, comics, and series of videos, and all of these could do a good job at showing us the story of one member of the Horde rising to a legend, and proving themselves worthy. I think it might make a particularly fun novel, which even Blizzard writers wouldn’t have to muck up, if they just stuck to the formula.

And the resulting Warchief? Well, that could be really about anyone. We wouldn’t be limited to the races leaders, we could shine a spotlight on any random officer who ever appeared or even someone completely new. New… but with the attributes the Horde races value most. I’d find that kind of exiting, really.

It also wouldn’t have to be a sudden thing. There could be one comic per patch or something like that, slowly progressing the applicants’ stories, and bleeding into NPC-commentary ingame, so there might be years before another Warchief has proven themselves, but it would be at least something to cheer for.

Well… so much for an idle thought, I just wanted to share it after it came to me. Have fun trashing it, and explaining to me why Blizzard could and would never do that, I mean, I would. :wink:

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I gotta love how the alliance is trying to decide who will be the horde’s warchief on the forums :rofl:

The horde’s warchief is not supposed to be someone alliance likes, its should be someone that alliance dislikes and even more hates because probably the warchief hates alliance too.

Im afraid i will ruin this for you, Sylvanas is coming back soon.
She will free us all

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We actually had a few potential characters that were written like that but aren’t really a realistic choice for the position of Warchief. Baine is a perfect example, he was a nobody before the Cataclysm (yes, the son of Cairne but he didn’t really do anything praiseworthy) and managed to become a major character during the last few examples, although his growth happened in the background. But it’s fairly obvious that he isn’t that much of a fitting candidate. Lilian Voss would be another example.

We have some characters to use, but they are either unused or used for another purpose. But I 10% agree that we need more characters that got to their position realistically, not some random NPCs that were nothing a few expansions ago and are suddenly Great High Supreme General Warlord or something.

I’ve heard this argument a million times, besides that it is also outright wrong because Wimbert isn’t Alliance irl, so your entire post is superfluous.

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Yes, Zul’Jin be praised. He showed the way.

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What? Next thing you tell me he is not a Gnome?!

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Then I’m sure she will beat the Warchief trials and actually prove worthy of the position.

Sure, but the point I was trying to make was that the character shouldn’t just not come out of nowhere, but should have poven themselves worthy to lead to the disparate groups whose loyalty they are expecting. And that needs a different mode of choosing the Horde leader.

Really, with that history the guy should have been such a cool character… sadly we only got some raid boss.

Indeed, I am actually a vulpera, and sitting here in my authentic vulpera fur suit. I have been told everyone who ever leveled a vulpera does that. A bit itchy, though.

Zul’jin for Warchief only if the guys in blue get to receive the almighty saviour Othmar Garithos as their High King.

Make it happen @Blizzard.

Actually, I’ve always thought of him to be a bit ‘gnomish’, maybe you’re onto something…

You’re only after my hair! I’m on to you hoofy guys… :unamused:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7362/ally-of-the-tauren

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Warchief trials? :rofl:
She already proved worthy.

Fine.

We can do this the easy way or the hard way Wimbert. Cut off your hair and no innocent Gnome-blood will be spilled today.

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He still is. He lives in our hearts. :heart: :relieved:

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All the leaders of the people she was supposed to lead beg to differ.

You’ll never get me alive! And my gnomish cloaking device is impeccable, impregnable and super impractical !

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Sums up exactely why this Horde needs more Grimtotem input.

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Tell me one epic TBC antagonist that wasn’t wasted in the same expansion as raid/dungeon boss material.

:roll_eyes:

The same thing was being said for Illidan during BC simpleton rog, ill remind you it was the nelfs again on war with him and look at him on legion when all simpletons realized what he done :slight_smile:

You mean when Blizz rewrote history to fit their new intended narrative?

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I dont know how and why they knew, but i had friends telling me that illidan was not bad even before legion.

I can tell you myself that blizz re-wrote BFA continuation with Sylvanas to please the alliance bated up forum SJW’s but i would not… I would never :wink:

The Warchief title lost much of its meaning when it started being something that could be handed over by the one in charge.

That’s one of the reasons why i feel like the only character that made justice to said position, was Orgrim Doomhammer.

No one cares about Zul’jin, so he wont become Warchief, let alone come back to life.