Apparently we arenāt choosing either way 
the path is already designed for us.
The path is flawed!!!
itās a lie, every class has different builds for different situations and people actively theorycraft at the start of each season
Are people getting worked up by talent names?
Really?..
I like outlaw playstyle but I dont want to play as a ācriminal,pirateā. Blizzard fix it!
Jesus peopleā¦ 
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i like warlock playstyle but i donāt want to rp demonic summoner!! please remove hero talents and add cosmetics that turn all my demons into ponies from mlp
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Itās also funny that the talents are already āpickedā for us not only cause theyāre the strongest one by far, but also because tier sets requires them to work. But yeah, dIfFeRenT BuiLds.
setpieces force you to pick only 1-2 talent out of 60 available, anyway setpieces working around specific talents are making optimized builds and rotation more diverse from season to season, not the other way around
so your best defense is that it is false advertising?
defense of what exactly?
How it is a false advertising? What they advertised to you, timmy? What kind of deceit you become victim of?
Did you? Or you just picked whatever icevein or wowhead suggested?
Iām an active resident of warlock discord.
Anyway it doesnāt matter, even if you just copy build you are still doing it wrong because some dungeons and bosses for the most optimized playstyle require you to change a node or 2, nevermind the fact that we have pure st, cleave, aoe, and hybrid builds for almost every class
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Idk I wonāt preorder for sure. Gonna make my decision after its launch. Disneycraft is not good enough to preorder you know 
We will see what they offer.
So you are aware that there are multiple hero talents for this exact reason right? Donāt want wake of ashes but want to choose a hero talent tree?
Then take herald of the sun, then just proc sunspots on avenging wrath, problem solved, wont be optimal since wake of ashes would also proc it more but yknow, if you donāt care about being optimal you can also just ignore talents in general yknow, why even choose them, why not the freedom for no talents, and no baseline abilities. Itās genius ignore every logical step to play well and youāll be the most unique not minmaxer ever, youāll be trash cause you refuse to pick something optimal but hey you can go to sleep knowing you played the game how you wanted.
In all seriousness, the talents are supposed to further a playstyle, and the ret playstyle and prot includes wake of ashes or eye of tyr, if you want to be bad for no reason, they look awesome, feel awesome imo and I see no reason why you wouldnāt take it but you do you i guess. Like you mentioned some tier sets do this too, itās simply a choice of playstyle, so if you play intentionally outside of the norm playstyle for whatever reason, dont expect blizzard to accomodate you, itās like if you enjoy an activity that noone else does like idk walking around azeroth, donāt be suprised that you donāt get content to your activity if itās so rare, grow up and stop strawmaning like they are choosing your talents for you, they are improving what playstyle is most taken, and even if not that, herald of the sun allows you to play it even without this, so stop complaining when you are forcing yourself to have the problem.
So if the Hero spec was called āRangerā and all the abilities would do the same things just not named or look dark and shadowy?
Because i dont see ppl argue like this on specs like Sentinel, Templar or other generic titles associated with the class.
Some might be, most are not. You are all arguing the RP of it all, this for me is an non issue. Especially the āDark rangerā one as you can currently look the part on any elf modell and on any class they can play as, even as Sanālayn. Where is your outrage on that?
Why is that a non issue for you but the name of a spec is?
For me it looks like you guys are looking to be angry about something forā¦ reasons and nothing more
Personally never been less hyped for an Expac.
āWar withinā Even the name is lame. And dwarves? Really? Dwarves?
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Iāll tell you a secret.
in 17 years on the paladinā¦ Iāve never played retri nor holy 
the only sunspots Iāll see in the future are the ones when Iām going to walk this summer.
Same as my DKā¦ only played blood.
Same as my DHā¦ always played Vengeanceā¦
Same with my monkā¦ I never played dps nor healer.
Same with my Druidā¦ I donāt even know what the other specs outside guardian do.
And yes, you guessed itā¦ same with my warrior, although I did play a bit of fury.
Edit: I really donāt understand why people donāt get it. Youāve got slices of cucumbers over your eyes. These talents are tied to other talents (so far). I donāt care if they are viable or not, Iām not questioning the talent chosen.
What Iām questioning is the fact that theyāve disguised a new everfreakinggreen feature meant to last forever to a talent of a talent treeā¦ and not the first talent in the tree but further down the rows, at least for paladins.
Am I the insane here??? Seems like it.
Hunters got a new spell not tied to anything. Why not every class? 
I donāt mind another spell, but class balances happen all the time. What happens when they nerf Eye of Tyr or Wake of Ashes because the new interaction is too op? Then Wake of ashes sims worse than another build but since your freaking spell is bound to that you canāt get away.
Am I really the insane here???
The only thing leaving me disappointed at this point is the fact they havenāt shown anything for Shamans yet while some classes already have 3 out. Itās a little frustrating but on other hand, itās building anticipation and maybe the wait is worth it.
I donāt think the Hero Talent trees are bad so far. I think people just have a big and unrealistic expectation on it and they donāt even know what they want.
Just because you donāt care about it, doesnāt mean itās not a problem.
For you it might be non-issue that children starve in Africa, but that isnāt really counter-argument for advocating for helping them.
Druid class tree before Dragonflight was one of the first outā¦ and it was by far the worst and it stays completely garbage with huge gap even today.
Iād say itās probably for the better.
The ideal time for them to release hero talents for your favorite class is towards the end after like 3/4 are released, so there are lessons learned already, but still time to change stuff.
Because Iām not telling others how to play, Iām looking at how I play - I can choose not to play a monk with dark ranger elf costumization, but I canāt shy away from picking sanālay talents if they are the more suitable play style or the one that is called āmetaā unless I want to abandon the toon for the addon, one is pure costumization and āfree to chooseā the other is gameplay related.
You answer this point but ignore the other so ill ask again while staring intently with my currently VERY red eyes!
Why do you care about the spec name not making sense while ignoring the fact that any elf can have the LOOK of a Dark Ranger / Sanālayn?
Edit: Btw, equating this non issue topic with that example? Yhea sure, this is truly a life or death topic!!
Še, very sensitive rp person is very disappointed with diabolist rp side, you see, its called āDIABOListā and there are zero connections to popular video game franchises called āDiabloā, outrageous.