And then it was never brought up again. Are you ignorant on purpose? Are the blood elves currently a core race of the Horde? Yes. Is there any hints of them becoming neutral coming in Midnight? No. That solves the debate.
At that time that story was interpreted as solidifying the place of the Blood Elves within the Horde, and was almost a meta-narrative commentary on folks who were complaining that they were in the Horde in the first place. It reminded people WHY they were in the Horde.
Remember, the entire story had a beginning, middle and end when it was implemented.
THANK YOU! Finally someone gets the actual story. We need to spell it out for them like talking to kids.
why should the high elves be okay if the horde once again is at war with the alliance and look by if they could help? Why should they repeat Aethas mistake? It would be more than fair to demand that Silvermoon doesnât aid the horde against the alliance to keep the thallasian elves unified. Thus making Silvermoon effectivly neutral for the factions we as players have.
the alliance elves have zero political power in Silvermoon so it is not their choice to make if Quelâthalas goes to war with the alliance or not. They made their choice.
should they repeat Aethas mistake?
What mistake? That Rommath decided to save the Sunreavers Vereesa tried to kill? Cry me a river.
Thus making Silvermoon effectivly neutral for the factions we as players have.
Quelâthalas is not part of the alliance anymore. Stop living in the past it is not healthy for you man. And high elves are still not playable. And you bringing up these arguments is exactly the reason Blizzard will never do it.
why should the high elves be okay if the horde once again is at war with the alliance and look by if they could help? Why should they repeat Aethas mistake? It would be more than fair to demand that Silvermoon doesnât aid the horde against the alliance to keep the thallasian elves unified. Thus making Silvermoon effectivly neutral for the factions we as players have.
Again, they are not making Silvermoon neutral. You are stuck on this point, and you really shouldnât be. Blizzard will not make a core Horde race neutral.
And offering grace to a handful of High Elves will not become a sticking point in future patches. Horde deliberations at Council are not going to be interruped by someone going âWonât someone please think of the High Elves?â. That would be too disruptive to the game narrative and implies the Alliance High Elves will wield a lot of power.
They wonât, simply by virtue of sheer numbers. They ARE a tiny group at the end of the day.
Them going home is not meant to introduce complexity into the story. Quite the contrary, this is seemingly intended to tie up their narrative thread, such as it is.
This is a Calia Menethil situation. Nobody sees Calia being asked to fight against the Alliance, but that doesnât make the Forsaken any less Horde even though she is on the council.
The problem is that they are. Intentional or otherwise. At this point I donât even think they care. They legit expect Blizzard to take the Belf city if not the Belfs as well and give them to the Alliance cause some overly vocal terminally online types here think they deserve it for some reason. Iâm curious to hear the rationale behind that line of thought.
See I called it from the beginning. They donât just want to have high elves. They also want to control Silvermoon and revert the past 17 years of story in THEIR favor alone. That was always their agenda and its obvious.
See I called it from the beginning. They donât just want to have high elves. They also want to control Silvermoon and revert the past 17 years of story in THEIR favor alone. That was always their agenda and its obvious.
On the bright side, it feels to me that this is the end for the Alliance High Elves. If they go home as datamining suggests, and with the Blood Elves remaining Horde, it essentially means they are being retired from the narrative.
Youâll note Dalaran isnât around to ferry them around the place anymore either, and those that were present in Northend have relocated to Silverglade Refuge. If people want them that badly, classic+ is probably going to scratch that itch.
Also this lore was already long coming since the majority of Quelâthalas has always been not committet to their factions at all even during the war. Like all they send was a token force under command of Alleria and Anasterian left because his sole interests was hiw own nation. The crowd here isnât even trying to understand the story Blizzard laid out long ago and doubled down onto after that.
You have literally participated in this debate.
But I donât care either way. High elves, yes or no, it doesnât matter to me.
High Vale Elfs. ![]()
But I donât care either way. High elves, yes or no, it doesnât matter to me.
Them saying âIt would make high elf fans feel bad if Quelâthalas was mean to the alliance! Respect our feelings!â is the most obvious proof the debate was never honest.
I think you are jumping to conclusions here.
I would refrain from making such broad statements about a beta where datamined stuff might change. (Related to housing)
Im sure i saw some HE on TWW with VE hairstyles. Could be wrong tho.
Anyway if we get HE im using NE stuff like on the lodges.
Them saying âIt would make high elf fans feel bad if Quelâthalas was mean to the alliance! Respect our feelings!â is the most obvious proof the debate was never honest.
Because your debates are always honest? Come now.
We all have our preferences. Yours is not any more important than theirs.
On the bright side, it feels to me that this is the end for the Alliance High Elves. If they go home as datamining suggests, and with the Blood Elves remaining Horde, it essentially means they are being retired from the narrative.
I doubt theyâre being retired anymore than any other race that shows up frequently in the expansions.
Youâll note Dalaran isnât around to ferry them around the place anymore either, and those that were present in Northend have relocated to Silverglade Refuge.
And whatâs to say they wonât go with us to Northrend in TLT? They have been there before, after all.
Because if this was ONLY about the playable race they wouldnât demand permanent access and political power in a Horde city in the same sentence.
I doubt theyâre being retired anymore than any other race that shows up frequently in the expansions.
How often does the Defias Brotherhood appear? And remember, no Dalaran to schlep them around the place either or Kirin Tor to call them to fight.
And whatâs to say they wonât go with us to Northrend in TLT? They have been there before, after all.
Oh thereâs bound to be one or two from the WOTLK days, but given we will be exiting Midnight, I reckon people will have elf fatigue. I for one am looking forward to adventuring with the Vrykul whilst folks argue over Frost Dwarf and Taunka allied races with nary an elf plotline in sight.
I have no idea what youâre talking about man.
Where are these people demanding that?
Fact remains that the horde is getting an updated capital and the alliance is not.
The alliance needs a proper quest hub for the expansion as well, so they got access to the city.
I think most alliance players would have prefered their own updated capital as a hub, if they had the choice. But they didnât get any such choice.