485 from mythic nazoth fair?

Yes! Ashran to give 500ilvl gear!

1 Like

I miss ashran. Because you could gear up for pvp after ding and noone flame you or kick you because of gear
(if not russian server) Now you have to do m+ for most casual pvp in wow (bgs) very sad.

my preferred game mode is harder than your preferred game mode!!!

so many ppl here deffend taht pve raider gets 485 and rank 1 2900 rating dosent
and trust me getting 15key box closed is 1000% esier tahtn getting 2400 rating
and by the way check best pvp players 0!!! or max 2 ITEMS FROM pvp on the and thats are azerites
and 10 ilvl hihger azerites or wep or rings are very important espacialy binding gushing to them cose it makes gushing stronger
blizzard just spit on pvp players in any aspect
class balance
gearing
even armor looking
and if we look back we see that every expension pvp gets even more guttered
you dont feel in pve the lack of half of your abilities in pvp trust me you do
i played praivate lich king arena servers 2800 rating and had such an insane kit
when i log to bfa /spit half of my kit is deleted
so by my opinion and trust me that every high rated pvp player will agree
PVE>PVP by far in this expansion and its not fair

1 Like

But this is MmOrpG game. If you want to be successful in PvP, you need to do every type of contet (including pet battles lol). How can you not understand this? Look at how mythic raiders suffered in legion, wod and mop. They farmed every raid on mythic diffuculty. They believed they were the gods untill they stepped into battlegrounds and arenas where they got stompted by the PvP players.

I could see it as fair if 485 could come from RBG too.

Unfortunately RTBG is literally a wintrading bracket, although a good idea, it just cannot be.

its not a good mmo if for PVP i wear PVE GEAR

how long does it take you to become glad, to reach glad rating?

Because I can tell you what it takes to kill nzoth mythic and how many hours of dedication from 20 to 30 skilled players to reach and kill nzoth mythic.

It’s all about doing what your raid leader tells you what to do, nothing more.

Then why are you 3/12 mythic. Are you english skills lacking?

Also just post on your mains, everyone can check them with a search away


So if you have nothing to answer, you roast others for their english skills right? Ok, have it your way, but the first 3 bosses I’ve done proved that the only thing you need to do is to listen to your raid leader.
About posting on this character. I picked this one to post stuff on forums because why not. People are free to check my mains, I don’t hide them.

No mate, no disrespect, but what you’re saying makes no sense.

If it’s just listening to your raid leader - just listen to someone and collect your gear and then you’ll be on even terms with everyone, right?

People want gladiator mounts too, if it’s just “que arena and you’ll get it” they would you know, but they simply cannot, and thus don’t get the mounts and carry on with their lives doing something else.

You don’t want to do the content that rewards the highest rewards, someone does and gets them - what’s the issue here? - Just do it.

2 485 items won’t suddenly win the game, in a mirror match-up it can provide an edge, but the guy worked for it more than you did, since he did the content and you didn’t, he’s literally better than you and has the gear to show it.

If you can’t work for your items then it sucks to be you.

Wait for shadowlands and farm trophies/pvp rating for your gear there, you’ll still be behind people that play 1 character in raids/dungeons/pvp if you’re only focusing on the pvp part, that’s a fact and that’s how it should be.

1 Like

There were close to a million active arena players in cata where they slowly pushed them away patch after patch. Now how much we have left? 50.000? 20.000? Still somehow the arena content gets a fair bit of viewers, even in this horrible clusterduck. Imagine if we had as much active arena players now in the ‘streaming’ era. The weekly streams only would be enough to pull the financial weight of a fully qualified pvp development and organising team. But they are really encouraged to cut pvp of the game like its a tumor.

Pve stuff blizzard creates is great. Sure. Even if they sometimes get lazy for a short bit, the fights etc. have become super cool. Where in the progressing side, it just became sim sim sim. I have friends who spend more time in raidbots trying every single combination of the 35 different items in his bag, than actually getting in the raid or mythic+ to freaking do it. It is like playing chess with an engine assisting you. Then there are people getting real mad over that +7 rio point they missed. This stuff iritates me.

It is all rio and sim.

why it takes so long is partly due to the fact that they now tend to make encounters a 10 min fight and walking to the encounter takes another 5 minutes.

Taking heroic for an example:
It is not exactly difficult, in fact it is so boring that i just couldn’t stand it after vexiona and just left.
It still took quite a while till we got there. We didn’t really wipe but the kill time, walking, trash, finding new people killed soooo much time.

Now mythic surely is more difficult, although they only seem to add one more mechanic each boss?
I couldn’t even be bothered to stay 8h in a stupid raid that has been made longer just for the purpose of killing more time.

now how about they would make encounters dynamic so that you cannot just follow DBM mindless?
Then we could talk about skill. PVE is more about muscle and brain memory than anything else.

Issue is that reward is from pve. Whole expansion its just chore, poeple farming stuff they dont enjoy 70% of their playtime. I dont even care that some mythic raider have better gear that 100% of pvp player base 
But all this chore sht i have to do to to be even remotely viable for LFG is insane.

Mythic Nzoth is like gladiator level+ effort so its damn fair the people get 485.

Not gonna lie it’s pretty funny to see people with basically no real raiding experience claim how easy it is

You actually think its fair ?
Can you explain me why is it fair please?

You need to manage roster of like 25+ people, also last bosses are always around 500 pulls+ that means 5-8 weeks of progress depends how many raid nights you have as a guild.Keeping team for mythic raiding that actualy clear and farm the tier after is no joke Another thing is you need to spend a lot of time farming outside of raid like ap+corruptions/bethic or whatever system it is up for that tier.Sure for arena you need to do the same but not to that extend probabbly 50% less.For arena you need 3 people only and you can be very flexible with the time, its not as straining as managing 25+ people on your raid roster.And you can always roll super broken fotm comps and basicaly grind gladiator as long as people have some understanding of the game,In raid even if you have ftm it makes fight easier ofc, but still the effort is way above pvp, Gladiator is also much easier than other expac you only need 2,4k compared to 2,8 legion.

3 Likes