Yes, ofc there are a lot of players doing that. Just the statistics shows the M+ run numbers are extremely low considering sub numbers (1 run/month for each sub on average). M+ community is the absolute minority of WoW player base.
I thought you were implying weād get NPC/bot healers to fill in the blank. More similar to follower dungeon NPCs.
I donāt want to replace āhorribleā players with other āhorribleā players
Yesā¦
The worst part is those that barely use their toolkit, or lusts. dies inside
(1) The 10% or 1% is a made up number. For the reasons I already explained.
(2) Dead means that a season begins and nobody plays it. THAT is dead. It dosent mean that a season begins, everyone plays it and people slowly stop playing as their goals are met.
It has been like that in PvP, in Raids, in WQā¦ I meanā¦ Think about it. There are people that do the quests, see the story, and then quit playing. Does it mean wow is dead ? Its not !
So M+ is definitely not dead. In DF the 1st weeks you got 2M weekly dungeon clears. And as the season progressed that number stabilized to 500k weekly dungeon clears. That is very much alive.
And what I find most idiotic from your āM+ is deadā is that it comes from someone that dosent play M+, OR, is interested in playing M+ at all. So you got this narrative to try and justify some hidden opinion of yours. Which is hipocritical and moronic.
If on the other hand it came from me, who does engage in the M+ scene and I sad: Guys, there is like 5 keys posted on a Saturday afternoon and I got nobody to play withā¦ THEN you could argue M+ is dead. But that is OBVIOUSLY not the case.
Especially because they dont understand why RShaman is so good this season. Its not because we are OP HPS wise (like HPala was in S2 Exodia)ā¦ Its because we can dispel curses and things.
So you still have to heal. Still have to press buttons. Just like any other healer, and MORE because we are 3rd in raw HPS.
You base your assessment on said statistics. I proved your massive bias in those statistics, therefore your statement āM+ is dead contentā goes from fact to opinion.
And the opinion of someone that dosent engage in M+ is worthless.
Your point is ? That M+ is dead ? Well then so is everything else then.
What your statistics show is that there is a portion of the playerbase (not the majority) that engages in M+ CONSISTENTLY. And that there is no majority that CONSISTENTLY engages in 1 single form of content. Most engage in a mixture of thingsā¦
But that is FAAAAAR from ādeadā.
It is STILL much more valuable than the opinion of someone that dosent even engage in said content. So please be quiet and let the adults talkā¦
I think easier seasons have shown quite a lot of engagement and from a more broad audience? I donāt M+, I have no horse in this race but I think if they ease it up a bit, more people will enjoy it again.
Either way you know, I love archaeology and would love updates for that. And I doubt my fellow passionate archeologists and me come even close to 10% Not everything needs to appeal to everyone.
They already coexist. You got Heroic dungeons in a quew as you guys wanted. And the reason its Heroic and not M+ is because when the responsibility of grouping people is in the hands of Blizzard, they have no choice than to nerf the content.
Why ? Well for starters because the quality of the people is hap hazard. And second, you STILL have a tank/healer shortage and still wait. And its HEROIC.
And all this happens because PvE is not equal to PvP.
Meanwhile in the PUGs Iām getting started the best and brightest humans take a break from being heart surgeon millionare astronaut cowboys, theyāre too good for automated queues:
Im not a troll. Im serious. Putting a plate of dung in the buffet dosent add more āoptionsā. It simply adds a plate of dung to an otherwise tasty buffet.
The reasons I say this is because this is the 3rd time people are asking for this. And we will get the same results a 3rd time.
1st time it was in WotlK when LFG was actually put in place. It started out challenging. People complained. And it devolved into what you see today.
2nd time it was in MoP (if I remember correctly) with LFR. It started out challenging. People complained. And it devolved into what you see today.
3rd timeā¦ WW ? With M+ ? Guess what will happen next ?
And im not counting Solo Shuffle into this. Because its PvP. But that also turned out to be a pile of dung that fixed none of the problems that PvP had ā¦
Because doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
I guess whatever the plan was, itās making me seriously consider unsubbing and coming back for season 2. I feel like I should be having fun doing m+ and this is the first season Iām not. Maybe just need a break, idk
Dont mince my words. Dont chew them up and spit them out wrongly to suit your own needs.
Because two seconds later you contradict yourself and accepted my point. Which you, funny enough here, seem to back track on once again.
I never made any of thsoe claims you seem on think i did. Sayign one thing in one thread and then another entirely different thing in another thread is affectign your credibility