[A-RP] Shal'dorei Defector is looking for Guild

That is much correct. Alas many think ‘armistice’ = ‘peace treaty’. Which is not the case.

This :point_up:t2:

As it stands, it’s more of an attempt at the cessation of hostilities. The entire Alliance has not yet signed it and border conflicts are still on-going throughout Azeroth, as per Blizzard’s word.

To add on this, it also doesn’t mean NPCs would be as welcoming as certain players might be, which is why I myself did not take her own druid NPC as an example of night elves she has interacted on peaceful terms with.

But, that begs the question. If her intent is to make amend for the actions she did during the War of the Thorns, and her desire is to throw off her shackles of arcane magic ((and impossibility, due to her race.)) and she wishes to learn druidism, why doesn’t she approach the Cenarion Circle? Neutral, thus giving her access to Alliance settlements under the given circumstances, as well as druidic lessons from a faction that wouldn’t want to rip her head off for being a Hordie.

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Cenarion Circle is actually a very good option. Is there though any guild representing such?

Off the top of my head, I don’t think there is. Most druid guilds that I’ve seen about tend to be pretty tied to their faction or allegiences, to where it feels almost as much of a loyalty to the Alliance/Kalimdor than to nature itself. Factions play a really big role within most guilds these days which isn’t too much of a surprise given what BFA was focused towards.

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My main peeve with your character is not the story in itself, but rather the model.

You suceeded in making her look as close as possible to nightborne don’t get me wrong but your race is still that of a night elf in-game and the look of NE is different from that of a NB. I would prefer if you played your character with a nightborne model tbh, just so that the model and the race doesn’t get devalued. It’s not a “I won’t play with you peeve” but a “it makes me uncomfortable to remember, every time, that she’s in fact a NB” peeve.

Of course this is just the feedback that no one asked for. You’re welcome to act as you prefer. See you in Azeroth.

I don’t really have much to say that others haven’t already, so I’ll just parrot it: I really think you’re going to have a hard time finding somewhere to fit such a specific exception of a character, and I have to be honest in saying that I can’t even imagine it being overly worth the hassle, but I’m sure there’s at least a couple out there somewhere that wouldn’t mind

I don’t know why one of the Shal’dorei would ever want to ally themselves with the Alliance though, even if they dislike the Horde for what it is - would they really go that far? I can’t imagine the notion of never being allowed back into Suramar City (a Shal’dorei defector is hardly a common occurrence and it would not be all that sensible to assume nobody has noticed that about your character) is a particularly alluring one to any Nightborne

Ultimately up to you though, but I saw the thread and I am extremely bored and have nothing better to do than offer my two cents

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Ngl I think its the opposite, there are always guilds willing to take in characters like this.

I once was at a campaign in Desolance on Mori, lo and behold what do I see between the Alliance/Night Elf troops? A Kaldorei Dark Ranger… What happens when I ICly act aggresively to her presence in an Alliance/Kaldorei hub? Scolded. Alot of people flocked to defend the Dark Ranger because reason Y/X/Z, because RP should be inclusive yaddayaddayadda.

Anyways I gave up, people can RP whatever they want, if its to weird or headcanon-y, i’ll just shrug it off and walk away… If I can pretend its just some crazed madman/woman… I’l do that.

Alisande was a loyalist to the Grand Magistrix during the civil war. She believes Thalryssa is unfit to rule Suramar and would have the city “liberated” by the Kaldorei rather than serve Thalryssa. Her hopes are that the Night Warriors can conquer her city and take it away from the Horde.

So. She’s a former loyalist of someone whom decried the very people she now wishes to see conquer her own people as tree dwelling savages no better than trolls.

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You should rise your standards for Kaldorei. Suramar right now suffers under Thalryssa who dragged the city into a war that was not the Shal’dorei’s for a faction lacking morality in a similar way as it turned to the warchief (again). Who proved to be no better than the Legion.

So yes she wants to Conquer her city in order to liberate it from the rebels who now hold her people hostage in the hands of the Horde.

Better have Tyrande and her Night Warriors control Suramar than the spineless, traitorous and incompetent, ungrateful Thalryssa.

See, while that’s a perfectly valid thing for your character to believe, I can’t help but feel that would be an incredibly difficult sell to most night elf characters, and thus a difficult sell to the guilds of those characters. As for this:

We do see a lot of Horde characters, Sylvanas included, refer to the night elves as savages and the likes. Certainly a haughty society of aristocrats and arcanists in Suramar would question why their long-seperated kin are so far behind in regards to magical prowess and, for lack of a better term, fashion sense.

Again I’m really sorry if I’m coming off as harsh, but you’ll really struggle to find a guild with this sort of concept. The best bet genuinely might be to try and lead a guild yourself with this particular idea, although I’m not too sure how many players would have characters ready to join it, or feel the motivation to create a new character to do so.

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I struggle to wrap my head around this. Like she was okay with Elisande working with the legion to shovel the commoners of Suramar off into felsoul hold to be used as living fuel for the legion’s invasion, but Sylvanas was too far?

Am I missing something here? I’m not trying to dunk on the thought process, my character is wrong about a lot of things IC too but this just doesn’t seem right.

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Play whatever you want mate, but expect a lot of backlash both ooc and ic. Depends on you if that’s price worth paying for such a controversial character.

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Elisande lead Suramar for a long time. Joining the Legion like it or not was a strategic move that could have paid off eventually as things seemed to be (Keep in mind inside the bubble we did not know others survived).

Thalryssa suggested she fight against the Tyranny and madness of Elisande who was mostly trying to protect her city even if she was wrong. On the other hand, Thalryssa throws her people in a war without any reason, supporting a faction to commit a genocide against a faction that helped her win her rebellion for a Banshee who went on a killing spree on a whim.

I can’t really tell if Sylvanas or Legion is worse. The difference is this Elisande made a choice based on desperation. Thalryssa made a choice based on Incompetence.

Thalyssra had nb join horde far before Teldrassil though, and after that it was too late to walk out of the deal. Horde was already in Suramar with troops present, supported the nation/city with resources to rebuild after Legion invasion.

One features enlisted Shal’dorei soldiers fighting a distant war and Suramar untouched by it and flourishing.

The other featured people rounded up on the streets to be forced into magical bubbles until withered, exiled into the forest to die, executed. Brought to Felsoul hold to be processed into life-whatever-voodoo-anima-energy to fuel the Legion.

Are you saying that participating in a coalition and sending soldiers to faraway lands is worse than Robochef-ing your people into demon-diesel?

It was stupid to join the Horde in the first place. Thalryssa is not fit to rule. She deserves to fall under Tyrande’s blade. People can defend Thalryssa and the Horde all they like but the facts are there.

A good leader does not join unnecessary wars for maniacs. She joined the Banshee and kept fighting her wars in the cost of her own people. Elisande has her very city invaded she had little choice. Thalryssa simply threw her people in a war for nothing.

You don’t like it? Ask those Shal’dorei who died for Sylvanas. Do you think they feel patriotic and better than those who fell to the Legion? Still it could be avoided if Thalryssa was just borderline competent.

Are you IC right now fam?

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