[A-RP] The Crown Confederacy — A Stormwind Project

[Irelsia-argent-dawn (Irelsia)]

It makes me happy to know that you still play.

[Dorlas-magtheridon (Dorlas)]

I think the whole thing with downplaying magic is also a form of overcorrection. People RPing OP character often ends badly, so from my experience, roleplayers tend to idealize RPing weak characters, sometimes to the point where objective advantage like magic or Light is RPed as less convenient than travelling by horse or doing a surgery.

Then there is tone of RP people want to go for. Warcraft is very high fantasy universe with sci-fi and steampunk elements, yet some players like to go for low fantasy roleplay and mage teleporting the entire group (or making a portal that is actually really easy to do in lore…that´s one part of that Dalaran portal book people always seem to ignore) doesn´t fit into the RP they do, even though it makes complete sense in Azeroth.

Plus, and this is just my personal guess based on interractions with people who do this style of RP (so don´t take this as some statement that this is how it is, it´s really just how I felt when magic was brought up in communication), is that they don´t really know or care much about magic lore and in turn often have skewed idea about how it works and prefer to leave it out of RP as much as possible, because they don´t see it as something that can enhance the roleplay and is integral part of the lore, but rather a nuisance to their style of RP.
But it´s just my guess, I could be completely wrong about it.

[Kêlly-argent-dawn]

Let’s not derail further, I’d say. I’m curious as to what happens next. Most of us are in the discord, woo.

[Darianuth-argent-dawn (Darianuth)]

@Dorlas-magtheridon

Plus, and this is just my personal guess based on interractions with people who do this style of RP (so don´t take this as some statement that this is how it is, it´s really just how I felt when magic was brought up in communication), is that they don´t really know or care much about magic lore and in turn often have skewed idea about how it works and prefer to leave it out of RP as much as possible, because they don´t see it as something that can enhance the roleplay and is integral part of the lore, but rather a nuisance to their style of RP.
But it´s just my guess, I could be completely wrong about it.

I’ve had similar thoughts, actually. While true a large part comes from people misusing magic in RP, the response to it often appears to spawn from an unwillingness to actually look into the lore of magic in the setting. If they did they’d realise there’s a laundy list of stuff that can impede or outright stop magic in it’s tracks. Meaning they could easily let mage characters do what they can do in lore, but provide narrative reason for why they can’t solve everything.

Tone is also the problem. When you throw a ton of people into one spot you’re bound to have problems. To be more on topic, SW has had a tone conflict for some time now. Some people want it to be the beacon of humanity that it’s repeatedly displayed as in the lore, with most crime being fairly petty and for the most part the city is peaceful and well structured. Then you have people that want to RP far dirtier crimes, riots and unrest. The two clash and friction is generated between each ‘side’. Same with magic v no-magic crowds. It’s why if I ever wanted to do anything magic heavy, I’d have to specifically join a high fantasy/heroic guild.

@Kêlly-argent-dawn

Let’s not derail further, I’d say. I’m curious as to what happens next. Most of us are in the discord, woo.

Didn’t mean to derail. Just thought it was worth going over the perspective of magic in the context of this project.

[Kêlly-argent-dawn]

I doubt they’ll have something explicitly planned - but that’ll probably be for the community there to make happen. I know I will whenever it fits.

[Dogthíng-argent-dawn]

So

Many

PARAGRAPHS

[Hacklet-argent-dawn (Hacklet)]

This sounds like a cool initiative. I’m looking forward to seeing it in action!

[Albrecht-argent-dawn (Albrecht)]

Just want to draw attention to this piece of a related post:

@Albrecht-argent-dawn

Aims

One of the first aims of the office will be to establish a semi-open committee of those with a demonstrable investment in Stormwind, mainly being aristocrats and burghers, to come and air their views, as well as vote on certain civic ordinances depending on the rules imposed below.

1. That any deployment of regular soldiers to the streets of Stormwind must be agreed by the committee. The counties do not apply.
2. Emergency detention powers must be approved by the committee, and anyone detained must be delegated a representative from the committee to oversee.
3. The committee will approve military court martials and tribunals for subterfuge and treason.
4. The demobilization of soldiers in Stormwind or the deactivation of emergency powers must be agreed by the committee, and can be voted on at any time.
5. Admission and dismissal from the committee must be determined by the committee.
6. Acquisition/procurement of land or structures for strategic or defensive use must be agreed by the committee
7. Authorising entry or search of premises or holdings which claim neutrality/independence must be agreed by the committee.
8. These house rules may be changed by supermajority vote of 80% or more.

Initial admission will be by application, which should show the candidate’s investment in Stormwind or its provinces, how the candidate would use the position for the greater good of Stormwind, and how able the candidate is to effect change based on matters discussed. Once the committee is large enough, it will decide on admission and dismissal by itself. Feel free to join the discord and DM me if interested:

https://discord.gg/3PAvQYY

[A-RP Crown Confederacy] Servant of the Crown

Servant of the Crown This guild is intended to function as a civic center for the project linked below: Directorate for Regional Security This office has been dusted off in times of war, tasked to prevent subterfuge and enemy action within the city and counties of Stormwind. Headed by Captain Albrecht von Asch, the office has been attached several units of military in service of this purpose — though he’s loathe to deploy them. The Lionwatch works in cooperation with the Directorate, thoug…

[Lupús-argent-dawn (Lupús)]

This is exactly what I was afraid of. Bringing more Military into Stormwind. And more Authority. That’s exactly what the city DOES NOT need. Especially not by the people who are participating in this, I do not think it will be healthy for the overall situation. We don’t need Orgrimmar 2.0 where people are too afraid to roleplay in /s just to avoid getting approached by people who RP military or authorities.

I like the freedom in Stormwind, stop trying to control other people.

This is the one time where I’m happy that most people do not use the Forums.

[Tehya-wildhammer]

no 1 here = tryin 2 cont ny 1?

[Williame-argent-dawn]

@Lupús-argent-dawn

We don’t need Orgrimmar 2.0 where people are too afraid to roleplay in /s just to avoid getting approached by people who RP military or authorities.

Given the different “sociopolitical whatever” climates of the Horde and Alliance I doubt this will happen, but also Orgrimmar sounds epic to me if its like that.

[Lupús-argent-dawn (Lupús)]

Yeah super awesome having three different RP groups all speaking in Party Chat. The epiphany of bubble RP.

[Williame-argent-dawn]

Imagine being such a scaredy that you RP in party because you’re afraid someone won’t like your anti sylvanas slam poetry ecksdee

Cheeky edit: What you’ve described as being afraid of sounds to me like a reactive RP environment which honestly sounds better than just mindless chatter with no real end to it, and if that change happens to stormwind I reckon it’ll be better off for it. I liked Rping this old criminal in stormwind because I knew when I did my character had to be careful about what he said or did or else he’d probably get clinked.

[Lupús-argent-dawn (Lupús)]

That’s totally fine. But other people love something called “communication” which the people they avoid by using /ra or /p do not respect in many cases.

Maybe if the people who support this project only RP with themself in the “organic” way they want to and leaving the rest alone would be the perfect solution. That way everyone is happy.

[Tehya-wildhammer]

maybe if people wait & see before getting super paranoid & tryin 2 throw shade @ it would be the perfect solution …- .-. / --. … . -.–

[Lupús-argent-dawn (Lupús)]

Ok! (in ten characters)

[Mortlocke-argent-dawn (Mortlocke)]

yeah albrecht, your rp isnt allowed

[Korghan-argent-dawn]

Still better than House RP though,

[Crowton-argent-dawn (Crowton)]

I mean, nothing wrong with House RP in general. The wrong bit is that people seem to have some weird fetish where noble houses are these people who stand around Cathedral Square and try to get everyone to join their House… Which is like the most dull idea ever, frankly.

[Nilhilith-argent-dawn]

Especially when the Kingdom’s desperately pressing farmers into service, don’t think these House Guilds would be allowed to steal the manpower of the Kingdom for their own agendas.