A way to decrease "queue" time for DPS in mythics

IF a DPS wants a faster queue they will just simply have to go tank/healer if they can, otherwise, just deal with it.

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They can do their research
 why wouldn’t we want that?

I would think there would be some rerolling, but not to the point to where it would offset the gain.

LFR Nya? We killed N’zoth too.
Raid WQ? You mean like world bosses? That’s always 1 shot(unless you manage to get wiped by the opposite faction though)
 idk what you mean.

They aren’t a dps anymore. I enjoy dps, why would i go tank or healer when i don’t enjoy the role? You get to do something faster while not enjoying it, i’m sorry but it’s nonsense.

Then you simply have to deal with the time it takes to find a group.

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One tank rerolling would mean 6 dps without a tank. Even just a fraction of tanks and healers rerolling would make it worse than it is now.

Is that your answer to everything?

Also your rerolling nonsense is like telling someone to play another game cause the servers are full.

If they reroll and see that the issue is worse, do you think they’ll stick to dpsing and get a greater queue time than DPS even have now?
Someone with an instant queue right now wouldn’t put up with that.

If they never wanted to tank or heal, they wouldn’t in the first place.

Not even close.

What else are you gonna do ?

It is close, playing another role is like playing another game.
If the football court is full, you tell the others waiting to play, to go play tennis
 well i don’t want to play tennis! SO create more courts or make the court bigger(hypothetically speaking ofc).

I meant it in a general sense.

Who’s we?
The LFR group I queued into (once too many) were like 75% people who wouldn’t even open the Adventure Guide. I can’t recall the specific number of wipes I had to endure, but I think it was between 8-12. People were leaving and joining like a wipe is the end of the world.

Healers that don’t heal despite me having to run away, pop my vial and night fae shapeshift.

Leaving the 5 man LFG standard is a must. Your points are lacking so I don’t see any point debating

The guys that i got put in with by LFR.

Idk
 it seemed fine to me, a few left after 4-5 wipes
 we killed it on 7th try.

I still don’t know what you’re talking about


Color me surprised

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To be honest, if you actually wanted to solve the queue problem you’d be looking at like 1 tank 3 heals and 50 dps (yes getting 50 dps for a key isn’t a rare thing in barely 5 minutes)
 At that point it’s worst than MC than you’d need more healer, so wait list would rise


A bit of exxageration there but my point stands nonetheless, this won’t change anything about dps queues at all. Problems are tanks, you know, i know it, everyone know it. Roll one (like me) or do like any other dps and enjoy the wait you cause by sticking to your flashy big dps numbers :slight_smile:

Hmmm not really, i mean, didn’t change because people asked for it but for the convenience of less queue. That’s a motivation some people don’t want to consider it as such it still is.

Compete in PVE with unbalanced classes ? Hmmm’kay

Enjoy the queue with my tank main blessing :slight_smile:

To be honest, you don’t seem to know how percentages work. 40% more demand for dps means exactly that 40% of the dps find a group faster.

Sure? Why not? Nothing will ever be balanced/equal so why stress about it?

Just pull faster please.

And you do? If the default is 3 dps, then 5 dps is a 66% rise in demand.

But that doesn’t mean 66% of all the dps find a group faster, since you miss an important factor. We have no clue how big the dps pool is right now, how many groups are being formed nor how this change affects the latter amount.

I usually don’t care about statistics i’m not concerned with, since you brought that help let’s have some fun with it


Let’s consider you’re right about 40% it means 1,2 more dps By group
 If you add 1 you’ll get shorter queues, but still queues. If you add 2 you get a shortage of dps.

Now problem with dps in queues can also come from low Ilvl, low r io, bad class for affixes of the week/not meta class. You can’t change that aspect of the game by adding 1 or 2 slots by groups.

You’ll still take forever if you’re not the required expectation to be picked. Because again, for each time you apply i’ve got 5 to 10 Competing with you, and apparently competition seems more attractive that time :slight_smile:

I suppose you’ve no problem with that since you enjoy competition right ?

That was just a random % i’ve been using.
Ofc that 2/3 means 66%.

But you’ve got this backwards
 the higher rio players will go first anyways
 so it means that the lower ones get their turn faster.

Or they just don’t get their turn
 And that’s the more likely outcome considering the pug environnement.

They do get their turn m8, they get it on lower rio groups.

You know when i get in a grp and last is tank/healer, your rio matters as well right? It matters even more. :slight_smile:

And you expect ppl to take your ret and other meh specs instead of the good ones just because there are 2 more slots? Thats cute.
And asking blizz to balance anything else than raids is waste of time. Thousands of ppl tried it and they just dont care.
Dont get me wrong, I wish an off meta spec could have a chance to get into groups, but wow works this way and the gap gets bigger and bigger every content update/expansion.

No? Rio still matters. And just so you know ret has very high dps and very good utility for m+. lol

Many hybrids have potentially decent utility, but the fact is that they are not mage, hunter or rogue

Mage has ridiculous aoe dmg, because blizz somehow thought not having aoe cap is a good idea for fire mage. Rogue gives you skips and hunter is needed for the redirect threat. What exactly you want to give up just to take some random dps? The only possible option is boomkin for its ridiculous dps and treants that tank.