So what kinda overall dps should one have in your opinion for a 10 now?
You should play prot, period.
No ty, prot isnât my jam.
Because the general idea of tanking/healing not be competition, when you actually compete with others stupidity (keep getting avoidable damage, the damn overpull because aoe/mistarget/pet pulled ) and their eagerness for winning the competition in their dps mini-game , and leaving after wiping âŚbecause itâs not timedâŚ
Really that community is unrealâŚ
People should just be honest and not try to act like the WoWâs RamboâŚ
If you can heal or tank and you donât (ever) itâs not that you donât like watching bars , or you are into âcompetitionâ or canât be assed to tankâŚ
Itâs because you are afraid that youâll do a mistakeâŚand the so called competition will trash talk youâŚor you know that you CAN NOTâŚbecause you donât have itâŚbeggars canât be choosers⌠And if you call âcompetitionâ you should at least be able to play âŚany spec your class supports. How is that for competitionâŚ???
And as u play priestâŚi can play all my specs, i just wonât bother to queue soloâŚgot guild, got friends, communitiesâŚ
And canât be assed to heal people that canât be assed to do the sameâŚ
One dung i heal, next one you, or the dps to tank etc. Except if someone really wants to tank for example.
Full stop⌠wrong. Ty for playing though.
DPS cried the biggest river when tanks did actual damage. Yes not feeling the bit sorry for them, enjoy your long queues where the rich get richer, and the low ilvl gets declined again and again
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So youâre salty because you donât pull big numbers like a dps? Well⌠youâre there to tank, not dps.
Just pointing out dps hypocrisy when they feel threatened about competition isnât being salty.
You however, youâre salty to be stucked in queues.
Ho btw imagine if you could compete with dps as a tank you wouldnât have your amazing excuse âhey i canât compete with dpsâ and you might have to think about tanking than⌠Yeah i get why you donât want tank to have dps 
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Well why would a tank which can take high dmg be able to do dps equal to a dps, when dps arenât as tanky as a tank? Thatâs not logical or fair.
Itâs not the tankâs job to do dps.
Not as salty as any tank or healer in this thread though.
This makes no sense. lol
Itâs not a dps job to say what a tank should or should not do.
Check your posts, self reflection please.
Yeah losing your excuses to not tank⌠What a nonsense right ?
Not wrongâŚi just pointed you optionsâŚ
You donât want to stuck in queue? You donât even need guild nowdaysâŚjoin some communities and go dps 24/7âŚ
Itâs not a tankâs job either. Itâs Blizzardâs and they decided that tanks shouldnât have high dps. So stop being salty regarding that.
Iâm here with a suggestion, all i see are tanks/healers personally attacking me and every dps to have ever lived. Like we killed all the healers and tanks hopes and dreams.
It is nonsense for a role to perform = to their own and another.
Should DPS be able to tank equally in their DPS spec? Or to heal equally in their DPS spec too?
See? It is nonsense.
Thatâs not a solution to DPS queue times, youâre not a dps anymore when you queue as a tank or a healer, youâre a healer or a tank at that point.
I got a guild⌠we do dungeons as well. But i like to pug, itâs boring always going with the same people in dungeons.
Iâm not though, i enjoy my tank very much thank you !
Now if someone disagree with you itâs not an âattack on your personâ itâs a disagreement. Not the same thing
Youâve no ideas how many left pugs because of dps mindset in there ^^â really no ideas at all hu?
Thatâs just your opinion on the subject.
Well no you donât like tanking anyway.
you would have to watch bars and you donât like it either
Actually it might not be. Having a different vision than you doensât make it nonsensical.
Sure you do, you made a full post about the fact you canât be invited in pugs 
More people in a m+ group is a horrible horrible idea. The pug environment is already on edge, and I donât want to have more chaos inside dungeons then it already is.
Tanking needs to be made more attractive. Doing less than 50% damage then dps, having all the responsibility but no fun except the feeling of taking the shortest straw?
Sure it can be fun to tank, but itâs definitely not attractive enough. Blizzard needs to step up and make this more attractive then being the punching bag for both mobs and players.
Pugs are pugsâŚthere was always that problemâŚunless unique mechanics that need a specific class/spec that makes life easier⌠Or depends on the needs the group has, not only for dps but utility as well.
Another option is to make tanking easier. I wanted to play tank but you have to be Wikipedia of dungeons to run them. If not everyone swares at you
Not a position to be.
Glad to hear that.
Itâs not when someone disagrees with me, feel free to look over the thread and you can see that.
Iâve did a pug today, we wiped a few times, it was due to the tankâs fault for pulling b4 the stacks were gone, it was due to the healerâs fault for not running from shades⌠multiple times, it was due to the dpsâs fault for not interrupting the fist. Guess what, nobody verbally abused anyone.
There was like a tank and lock saying 1 line about eachother⌠and then we killed the boss. The tank soloeâd it⌠the healer had issues keeping us up, only me and another were going for the orbs so it took longer.
And guess what⌠weâve all said thank you and moved on.
Itâs about being as tough as a tank, just like a tank can pull numbers like a dps.
But that would be unbalanced, right? Nobody would die.
I donât like watching bars all day yeah, but i still do clutch heals and support when needed, so why would i say no to even more potent heals?
But that would be unbalanced, right?
Well currently it is Blizzâs vision for tanks to not dps as much as actual dpsâŚ
See⌠i made a post regarding resolving the issue with DPS queue times. I get invited to groups while i do wqâs eventually without issue.
I donât have an issue of not getting invited to groups.
Well yeah⌠pugs are fun.
Just do a search for dungeon routes and youâre set, that way youâll know what packs to pull and in what order and which way to go. Just be careful at weeks where killing a mob empowers the others, donât overpull there and always finish your current pull before going to the next as to not empower them.
Why making a post about the difficulty to get into groups if you donât have any problems ?
So this player thinks itâs to much of a bother to know the dungeon, your answer is well itâs easy youâve just to do research. I mean youâre really very helpful ainât you?
Because itâs about general DPS queue times? Itâs like saying if you have a medium salary you wouldnât want for everyone on medium and lower to get a raise as wellâŚ
Yes, thatâs the solution. He wants to tank, but doesnât know the routes, so look the routes up?
and why not ? scaling is already in game - it would be very fun to do dungeons in 10 man party .
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