The inflation is insane and farming Gold is unbearable without GDKPS,antis need to understand that GDKPS is not only a way to buy gear but also to farm Gold for consumes, infact it was the best farm possible. But complainers got it banned believing it would reduce RMT but how is it going for anniversary?
As it turns out RMT is worse than ever before 38/40 of my raidteam are swiping. The removal of gdkp made RMT even worse because the best goldfarm in the game got removed, remove efficient ways to farm gold and people will swipe instead because they still want to buy all those consumes. As goldfarming becomes harder as the overworld keep getting overrun by bots.
Why keep GDKP banned when anniversary proved to all of us that it isn’t the cause of RMT?
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The prices are not higher than they were when Naxx released last time around they are around the same actually. So there is no massive inflation at all. The only thing that changed was that there is no more laundering of gold from bots that gets split out to the “pumpers”, they have to earn their gold the same as anyone else (or risk getting banned if they deiced that buying it is worth the risk)
It for sure has reduced it though, only consumes (and the mats for T3 sets) are on the same level as they were in 2019 classic, things like edgemasters are way cheaper than they were at this point in 2019 classic ergo there are less people buying gold to get stuff.
Sounds to me like a your guild problem actually, sure most of them might not have bought gold if they could get someone else’s bought gold through a GDKP but the gold would still be bought it would not come from people who love doing DM jump runs for 18 hours per day.
It moved it from a few whales to lower amounts spread between more players the net effect is ether the same amount of RMT or a lesser amount as no one needs tens of thousands of gold now to get things they “need” while before people did buy gold like that. And also GDKP wasnt a gold farm it was a money laundering scheme where the people who helped to launder it got a cut of the ill gotten gains.
Its not that bad for sure, some spots are boted but most of the open world is fairly free from bots tbh, if you want to know where the bots are they are inside of dungeons fly hacking and printing raw gold from mobs that cant hit them.
Is at the same level as asking, why outlaw organized crime when there is already laws that make extortion and other things they do illegal. GDKP was fuled to a high degree by RMT, RMT was already banned, now instead of having to prove that person A ether have bought or sold gold for real money they can just point to the fact that they bought or sold a item for gold in a run. Less need to keep a eye on things and easier to automate a system to detect it.
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Yes, GDKP itself doesn’t remove or encourge more RMT, it just changes it. Some “whales” can buy gold, and all members of the raid get some part of it in the end of the raid. It is, in fact, indirect gold buying for all raid members. Is it good or bad? Hard to say. On one side, people not buying gold, can get significant gold amounts, that they would never see without GDKP. On other side, it is still indirect gold buying, same amount of gold is bought, just bought by some whales, instead of by every player individually. In both cases: somebody need farm all that mats for consumes. In both cases: it will be mostly bots (with GDKP, even more bots, because more players will have access to “easy gold”, and less players will actually farm resources directly)
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Every GDKP member == swiper, because they received gold just bought from the whales.
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Because the biggest problem with GDKP isn’t even RMT, it’s the conceptual ability to just buy the best loot in the game with gold
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how can u be a swiper when u didn´t pay for it? 
just smart, getting it for free from real swipers
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You’re part of RMT, simple as that.
everyone who uses the auction house is too
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Because you get gold in the way it is not intended in game
Normally, in normal functionating economy, some people should farm resources for consumes, but since nobody really want farm resources for consumes, mostly bots doing it, and botting breaks the economy. Botting - is the main problem of RMT, RMT itself is not such big problem if there is no botting. For now, without GDKP, some people (Maybe 30-40%) who are scared to buy gold, still farm those resources. But if more people, even those who scared to buy gold, get access to “easy gold” (GDKP), absolutely nobody will farm resources, only bots will do this, and sell gold, directly or indirectly (GDKP), to the other players.
I mentioned it several times in different posts.
We need the tarnish coin system that was in SoD to keep prices in check and it makes boots almost pointles.
More resources will be on the market, more recepies will be on the market and it makes it easier for cassuals to get the of pieces to tier sets.
The change they did to worldbuffs i also like, but i think most people are against me there.
Problem:
“I can’t afford to buy stuff, I have no gold.”
Solution:
“I want to pay gold to get carried through content.”
Hmm… let’s see if we can work together to discover a possible logic issue here.
gdkp is bad for the game and always was and is defended heavily by people who don’t actually like playing the game cause if you did you would farm or not care about gold at all… gathering herbs is part of the game… farming mobs and gold is part of the game… if you don’t enjoy these things and want to skip it all buying and selling gdkp’s or RMT then you don’t actually like playing the game.
You like and individual part of the game and that’s not what the games about go play a lobby game where there is none of the other stuff getting in the way of you and your guild running instanced gameplay… or just go play retail.
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And you kiddo Anti Anti GDKP , need to understand that GDKP destroy the Game. If youre to trash ingame that u must buy EQ with Gold from youre RMT or Bot Accounts you should delete yourself or play a non skill game like Farmville. Or Retail DH. Should be playable with your 30 IQ
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They for sure are more expensive, just yesterday i bought mongoose for 25g each. And flasks are at fair price because blizzard thankfully interfered.
No, infact goldbuying is the worst we have ever seen. Gold is hard to farm competing against bots. And gold is super cheap to buy, more than half of anni players turned to swiping.
Redistribution of wealth. Gdkp made it possible to keep up with swipers, but now the gold won’t get redistributed amongst players, instead it cycles between goldsellers and buyers.
Said nobody ever in this thread.
Pipe down lil bro, first you have to pass the gear/logcheck in the first place to join a GDKP.
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If we had gold dkp on Anniversary, we would just have even more issues with even more bots.
The issue is BOTS, period. Not lack of GDKP - that would only help a handful with their consumes, not the general public. It’s like everyone skipped the economy class or US is on EU forums and posting
We need a TBC fresh & some bot banning! Or TBC wont be enjoyable at all for new and returning players.
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Itt: raid boosters crying their method of boosting whales to get paid in bought gold has been banned. Buy the gold yourself or farm it. Literally 0 sympathy.
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And I have bought them for 9.5g each for months on the PvE server.
PROVE IT… You cant prove that more than half the population is buying gold, without proof of that your assertions means nothing at all.
Unless you participated in the GDKPs as a pumper your could not keep up with anyone, the inflation was for sure worse last time around and it was 100% thanks to the GDKP kids who decied that they needed to be rewarded with something at all times. “Unless I get something out of raiding each week I dont wanna raid” Then dont raid.
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If only the ban did something against RMT i wouldn’t even be complaining. But it did literally nothing. The ban proved to be useless as RMT will be an active business wether there are gdkp or not , the ban should be revoked.
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I was actually going to make a post about this.
The cost for raiding now is silly, A lot higher than when I raided classic first time round.
I would ask for an increase in spawn/drop rates for items used for raiding to drive the costs down, I wouldn’t be against gdkp’s either at least then some of the gold is being redistibuted between the player base no matter where it comes from.
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