Why Blizzard for whole classic existence didnt balance honor gain from the BGs? AB/WSG is dead, nobody plays it cause it gives Nothing(even at weekend bonus), all playing this stuped bothered AVs fast games for 5 minutes, its ridiculous and its not fun, shame anniversary blizzard stuff do nothing and don’t care whats going on in their game.
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Yep. AV is really the only way to get rank 14 and that’s why I probably will just give up. Too boring.
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1 more week and all the sweaties will be R14 and then even AV will be dead 
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Speaking from a horde point of view, AB is usually against alliance pre-mades, and with WSG, far too many alliance druids, who have endless FAP potions from gold buying.
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Av should be nerf
No, the other battlegrounds should be buffed.
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this wekend at 12:33 only 9 basin . On horde side. Should be nerf . Dead realm
Honor gains don’t matter.
As someone without a premade you either get enough honor from AV or you cannot rank since all WSG and AB games are against premades which means something like 1000 Honor/hour from pity mark turn ins.
It’s either AV or no ranking since no one has 500 hour/week.
From my experience on era at least, 90% of times alliance have no priest in their team and no one can dispel horde faps
every1 knows that you get r14 in AV and then you queue premades in AB/WSG for the pvp lulz. Even if you fixed wsg and ab by tripling the honor gain it would still be inferior because the chance of getting into a premade would still be too high for the average player.
And let’s say you increased the honor from a win or loss in Ab with 10k honor. You think any1 would actually play it for fun? It would just be another AV meta where you let the other team win with 5-0 flags or in WSG you just let them cap 3 fast flags
“Just give huge honor to the winning team” Well now you’re back on square one, every game will be a premade with every1 using titan flask + full consume + every engi gadget in the game while you have mining/skinning solo queueing kekw
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So true this.
I remember in 2019 I solo queue wsg and like 8 out of 10 matches were against full premades. I did quit at that time wow for this reason till sod release.
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thats not the point. Point is they basically destroyed experience for ranking in wsg and AB and also for PVP. I am so glad I didnt touch any SOM or anniversary release only 2019. Ranking in premades if you are antisocial is pain. But entire point of PVP in vanilla or classic was about premades in wsg and AB. Not about AV pve meta.
Blizzard just wanna destroy classic same way they did to retail with comforting for average players who dont wanna try harder and just have mild boring experince where they achieve everything easy.
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All those hardtry premades were 20% of total premades you talk about. You just dont understand that yes there been sweatlords in PVP same as in PVE but honor farm for r14 was so intense that basicaly 5% of players could afford full time pvp entire classic. You guys talk about one or two months of wsg meta and spreading missinfo it was that way entire classic.
Look what you got now, braindead people ridding on mount to rush Bosses avoid any PVP at all.
Yet dead game again because none asked for except retail grown players who dont even play the game much.
Wrong again. AV honor gain got raised at least two times to kill wsg and AB. First with SOM rates and later again at some PVP major patch.
There been lots of players going for annniversary in hope they will get immerse experince of honor farm in WSG and AB.
I ranked in orginal rates from 2019. I had 3 shift job and side hobby that required lots of tiem too. Did my r12 and had vaccation ahead, but I didnt not want get more. I mean Certainly could do r13 or r14 but I realized my limits and also logic fact that I didnt need more than r12 for hunter bis.
Thats what should be game about, giving people options but if you cant afford you stick with what you can afford. Not making game socialistic republic with 100% r14 AV bots.
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tbh the issue with AB and WSG is that if you don’t run a premade you have a miserable time in both. If you run a premade and you fight a premade it takes too long.
I remember when one premade realized that they have no chance with matchup they have and lost first cap or first push in AB they let the other team win.
There is no sense in arguements about premades in AB or WSG. They were played and players played it and many enjoyed it. Just try tho think criticaly why would Blizzard increase AV honor rates 2 times in favour of AV over AB and WSG? I mean you could bot AV solo single player game even when rates were at 2019 level. AS SINGLEPLAYER GAME MODE.
There is no logic in making MMO game to be SINGLEPLAY AV bot.
However I remember we did on purpose never let certain premade groups or own server horde premades win even after we lost first cap.
Simple as that you need the same rates of honor as in 2019 favourable for WSG and AB at least in premades, so people actaully are forced to socialize and play multiplayer. No matter of its flavs.
I’ll have GM this wednesday after never facing a horde in a serious one on one combat. I don’t care what silly premade favoring changes they make now, I’ve already won.
damn you got rank 12 fully solo? that’s crazy, bracket 1 on my server was 2M at times.
He was on Zandalar Tribe, we were creating 8 first backet slots instead of natural one by inflating the pool for hours every week. I don’t know how much Elwenil personally contributed, but it was relatively easy to rank on ZT, to the point people could indeed get high ranks solo. But it’s only relatively “solo” if you have community making lvl1 alts with 15 kills for hours on end.