Oh look, you-dont-need-to guy again!
While VoP, Guardian from EP, Iris from M+ aren’t gated (and getting them is quick and kinda fun) other essences are pita to get them.
Before everything, when we say “need” or “forced” it doesn’t mean that we literally need or are forced to do anything. This is just the closest meaning to what we want to say. Me and a lot other players just want to improve their characters through any meaning, some people look at 0.1% increases like racials (I don’t care, I just wanna play cow :] ) and some just want impactful upgrades. It’s being competitive, there is NOTHING wrong with that. As long as it’s healthy competition without bragging it’s good. You can say “if you want to be the best, then work for it” - but I pay for this game to have fun, if I right now decide to play my resto shammy I would have to do LONG quest chains I ALREADY DID and farm reps I ALREADY DID and farm mechagon’s currencies which I ALREADY DID. There is no fun in it, no lore, no progression, just “you have to do this because you have to do this”.
Those essences have only one way of getting them. In TBC reputations were also needed, but you always had more than just one way of getting them: dungeons, quests, dailies, turning in items like unidentified plants for CE, daily dungeon/heroic dungeon also gave rep iirc. So you had different options, now you don’t have. Each xpac rapes players choice and Shadowlands with covenants only amplifies this philosophy further. This is what players hate right now.
First it was ‘essences take a billion years’. Then it was ‘it takes months’. Then it takes ‘weeks’. Then when explained you can get Rank 1 for anything you want in half an hour it was ‘I need rank 3 or I’m useless’. Then when explained you can still get rank 3 by not playing that much it was ‘but I want it NOW, it’s horribly timegated’. Then when explained not very many essences are actually ‘timegated’ it was ‘but those essences are timegated and behind pointless content’. Then when explained most of the essences that actually are timegated are not locked behind pointless content but tied to actually relevant group content that you are presumably wanting to do on your alt in the first place, it’s ‘but that content you mentioned doesn’t count and besides it’s reputations and I hate them’. Then when explained you can buy BoA reputation tokens on your main that presumably done everything, it’s suddenly ‘long quest chains’.
I’m done, there’s no talking to you people. You have decided that alts are physically impossible to play and no amount of facts will convince you otherwise, you just keep moving the goalposts to suit your conclusion.
As previously explained, rank 1 is useless since the gap between rank 1 and 3 is measurable in several K of dps loss.
Most of the best essences are actually timegated and it takes multiple weeks to get rank 3.
Presumably. Or presumably after a patch of raid grind, i do not want to go back again several weeks and do the same old raid again and again just to get an essence.
It can be said the same for you.
Plus, even more important, having essence account wide is something people are asking that won’t affect people who don’t care for it. You want to grind them again? Feel free to do the same content for free.
Yes i actually did and having an alt was just like im asking. You did dungeons no timegating in sight and then you raided. You could switch between characters. Leveling aside, it was much easier back then. Just spamming strat etc and do a weekly raid.
Yes i did, no hassle just did a raid once per week on one. Then over to my alt to do it on him. When i was max geared on a main i started from the bottom with an alt. Just spamming dungeons till i was raid ready. My friend is also currently doing this in classic😊
out of all 8.3 only rep ones really time gated since require 3 weekly resets, rest don’t. mythic ep is very affordable with current gear, worldven bis for whom lol?, focusing iris r3 has no dps value. So yeah /yawn etc
daily quests are the least casual friendly content.
you know just let people enjoy their time in a mmorpg how t hey want and dont force them into one or another field.
if you dont feel satisfied with your job that you want to work some more in a video game then go on and get these cosmetic rewards but dont lock powerincrease behind it.
nobody will stop you from doing daily quests dont worry.
Yeah too bad becouse casual players actualy like this type of content. It is easy ans acessible way to get power. Or you think its better to lock power behind raids and dungeons what majority of players do not do at all?
What you are actually saying is it is bad for every kind of player.
The ‘casual wq’-player dislikes it to get essences from pvp, raiding, dungeons.
The pvp players dislike to get essences from raiding and dungeons and WQ’s.
The pve-players dislike to get essences from pvp and WQ’s.
And then there is arena vs battlegrounds too. And M+ vs Raiding. HELP!
Casual wq player doesnt care about pvp, raid, dungeons essences becouse he doesnt need them and casual player definitly do not min max to feel forced to get biss essences.
