So now you can’t do it what? And yes doing 1 dungeon per week so demanding!
Can’t argue hero who barely finishes heroic.
Saying mythic easy never done it so many. “heroes” here xD
Bye heroes talking how all is easy meanwhile you can’t do it and look for excuse why!
Weaklings not much fun can’t even argue with you , you are so lame guys you ca not even make my banned for how I speak with you.
What I would expect most of you if not are alliance faction filled with weaklings.
Lich 10 hm, nef 25hm, ragna 25 hm, deathwing 25 hm, woe 25 hm, empress 25 hm and ra-den 25 hm.
Ye i never done it.
And after coming back in legion(read bfa) , i kill 6 bosses in uldir, understand, that there’s absolutely sane problems, as always, and drop this idea because of mythic plus. Theyre a way harder. At least, as a tank.
Not demanding. Just annoying. Like explaining all this for the 4th time to you.
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The essence issue disguises the real issue, which is all wow content that isn’t raid or dungeon is low-effort garbage that people don’t wanna do…because it’s low-effort garbage. ie, If Nazjatar content was remotely engaging or interesting or fun then people would love grinding the naz essence on alts multiple times, because they would be having fun multiple times.
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This is why time gated rep grinds are generally dull filler content. Just looks how much better the Suramar experience became when it stopped being gated.
If in order to get reputation one had to do tasks like rolling a fusion core sphere over 1000 insane gnomes then it would had been so much better but alas…
If you look into a lot of the most disliked content in the game, they are including a rep grind at some point.
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I agree with OP. Essences should’ve been account wide from the get-go to increase replayability.
And yes I don’t want alts, I want mains. What’s the difference?
It would increase the number or tanks and healers in game since people wouldn’t have to grind the same rep or bg for the nth time.
But go ahead, be against it since you have a steady group to play with, god forbid somebody else enjoyed this game but your selfish no-lifers.
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Damn you take words out of my mouth…
I’d like to bring grist to the mill here, what does the fact people likes to play alts do to the people who only wants 1 char??
Can you explain?? I like myself to play more than 1 character because sometimes I get bored of my warrior, I want to have a different gameplay so I can enjoy the game.
So the guys asking to keep unfriendly alt system are selfish.
Also you guys live in the past, we are in 2020 not in 2005-2007 so Classic it’s not relevant anymore. Sure Blizzard will take some ideas from Classic but not all the system.
More and more MMORPGS have ALT-FRIENDLY Systems, you guys know why? Do you understand why?
Because people want to try as many different gameplays as they want, and that’s also one of the main reasons those games KEEP people playing it.
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Agree with OP, make it happen blizz, theres quite a long time to new expansion and bein able to play alts would be cool
I mean, most games to be honest. Res 2 has a crafting loop and exploring loop. Halo’s ranking system. Gears of War’s Horde and ranking system. Any FF game. Persona series. Most complex games have rep content loops, even short horror games like the Blair Witch where you go though the same environment 3-5 times with small changes. But yeah in MMOs they go from small tasks to dailies grinds very quickly 
I mean all of WoW is the same content in based. I enjoy fight mobs and flexing my tactical whowats to kill things and complete quests as fast as possible. Dungeons, PVP and raids are just harder versions of that.
As for flying, it’s a convenience more then a game changer for world quests. At the point I got flying before 8.3 I barely used it because I’d already done everything. A loyalty reward/alt incentive I guess. I wouldn’t mind it being character bound but I don’t think it needs to be.
these people probably take the game way too serious and identify themself with their ingame toon.
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Just because you’re OK with low quality content doesn’t mean we shouldn’t give feedback. If everyone would have your POV then game would die rather quickly, because:
- if I don’t need to climb (M+, raids, arenas) I don’t need to be as much effective as possible
- so if I don’t need to be effective, then I don’t need essences
- then I don’t need to do any content tied to essences
- after finishing LFR (story) i can just unsub
- instead playing for 2 years, I play just 4 months to see content from patch (1 month per tier)
Great ideas guys! “We did it Patrick, we saved the game!”
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Yeah no, not really. I’m not saying people’s mains shouldn’t be going for BIS, I’m not saying you don’t need to be effective in high level content. I’m saying it shouldn’t be handed to alts on a plate. Does help if you read my comments before replying to half of one.
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Because what? Samkelly the DK of EU forums told so?
I have 4x Memory of Lucid Dreams, 2x Blood of the Enemy, 2x CDLF and 2x Conflict and Strife at rank 3. These are all tedious as hell to get at that rank.
Yes, I want these to be account-wide and after all the effort I put into this system that will be trivial come Shadowlands I don’t think I’m asking for too much.
People who are against account-wide essences are dumb.
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And yet many things is handed to alts on a plate.
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The thing is, it’s not for my alt, i switched from Warrior to DK and see it as unfair that i have to do all the stuff i already did again (Except gearing and leveling, that’s okay).
For example Blood of the Enemy, it will take me so much more time to get it on level 3, but i ALREADY DID THAT and i got the 30.000 achievement, why am i FORCED to do it again? I just want to do my high M+… Let me please enjoy the game?
See this is the problem. You have a concept of ‘mains’ and ‘alts’. There is no hard and fast rule that says this even needs to exist. They are just characters, not mains, not alts, just characters.
Saying that a system should be ballbreaking to run on more than one character just to uphold some outdated cultural concept of a ‘main’ vs an ‘alt’, well, I don’t know what that is supposed to achieve. If you want to re-feel the ‘immersion’ of grinding out 30k honour and Nazjatar follower xp repeatedly across multiple characters then go ham, if that’s what fulfills you. But don’t tell me I can’t just go to the BoA vendor because you insist I must feel the pain of it being an ‘alt’ for no freaking reason whatsoever. I just want to play the character just as well as my other characters and I don’t want to repeat honour and follower xp grinds that contribute nothing to my gaming experience except frustration at terrible game design.
Thanks.
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Even if you can’t convince your guild to do an EP run or you are not in a raiding guild, EP is done very regularly in the LFG and through various communities. There’s a lot of people that still want those essences and on top of that, the Ashvane Razor Coral trinket is currently simming as BiS or near-BiS for many melee specs. This means groups willing to run it are plentiful and will remain plentiful in the coming weeks, and it can be banged out very quick on Heroic or even Mythic with current gear.
VoP does not take ‘weeks’ and is not timegated in any way, you need six King Mechagon kills and it counts in M+. You can even get it in Heroic via the Group Finder though it’s not a guaranteed drop there. You can bang out six Mechagon Workshop keys in a couple evenings and you might even get other drops on top of your essence like the sought-after rings.
Honor gains for Blood of the Enemy are likewise not gated in any way and how long it takes you to get them is entirely up to you and your PvP skill.
Pearls can be acquired from a variety of sources and you can easily get 20ish just from the daily content, plus a big chunk from an Emissary if it’s up and a big chunk weekly from Mardivas’ Lab. Shouldn’t take more than a couple days, maybe three if you are unlucky, to get the 50 required for your essence.
I’m sorry but can we please drop all the mythology already. No, Rank 3 Essences are not required to just play the game. No, getting them does not take a ‘billion years’. No, they’re not all timegated. No, it doesn’t take weeks of grinding irrelevant content for hours.
If you truly did the content on your main and you truly want it for alts you are regularly playing at a decent level, it’s a minor inconvenience at worst. And I know it for a fact, I got a set of Rank 3 Essences for my Druid alt when it turned out I would need it for raiding alongside/instead of my Paladin. For both healing and Balance. Took me two weeks total and I wasn’t even working on it every day.
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