Blizzard Employees gettin drunk and talking about rapin the women employees sick… is that why Ion looks drunk/smashed on interview?
Is this why WoW Quality gone to shi.
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In a sense I think yes. Not about the drinking perse but think about it. How motivated would you be if you work in such a harsh environment?
I can’t imagine anyone being creative or involved like that.
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Almost every company has had to implement these sorts of things over the past couple of decades- it’s doesn’t prove or disprove any of the allegations. It’s pretty much become standard due to the changes in employment law and lawyers.
Whether there is any truth in the allegations is up to the Court to decide and in the UK we still have ‘innocent until proven guilty’ unlike the US which seems to have ‘guilty by instagram/twitter/facebook’.
if they are proved guilty then I hope the full extent of the law is thrown at those responsible (and only those responsible, not tarring everyone who ever worked there with the same brush).
Do I think they may well have had a sexist culture? As one who worked in the 80’s and experienced many such instances and saw the changes many banks put in place to make workplaces more tolerable for women I can see that it is likely.
Blizz must do better. But parents and educators need to do better too- as this is when this sort of attitude comes from. Better education and better awareness of the effect our actions may have on others from an earlier age would certainly help.
Or ask yourself this before you say or do something: how do I think this makes that person feel.
Not rly, I do not support 20th generation human rights, it’s getting too diluted. Soon we get into a point that making somebody feel bad will be a violation of human rights.
Will it rise better or weaker than ever? The npcs in the game can’t throw a proper insult and evil is not allowed, especially for the players. I see a pretty long tendency in video games and movies of making them woke and then letting them burn. That’s what I am talking about. Would you rather play a worse video game if it was made in a more friendly environment? I do not care, as long as the game is good. Their policies are internal.
It’s an investigation, not a result of a trial. You also mention suicide? Why those people don’t just quit? Surely you do not agree that the solution to a toxic workplace is suicide?
Blizzard execs were sharing adult pics of the deceased girl body. Like it was EXTREEMELY toxic. Not just at work, but also after work. Her manager brought a toy and lube with him for her on a BUSINESS trip. I think you underestimated just how gross some employees are. If you read it all, it gets more disgusting as you go on. I can’t comment on that here prolly. The irony, the things they did will prolly get me banned on the forums if I just quote it.
You can’t just quit in America. There are no safety nets. No welfare, no healthcare, nothing. Plus peer pressure etc.
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That’s why I said it was a huge mistake to hire women. Obviously it is disgusting but who in their right mind would hire women into such a cesspool? I’m not saying “don’t hire women” in general but just don’t hire them there. I understand an environment can be toxic but there is a difference between doing the things that are right and going for the logical solutions. You don’t put a girl in all male barracks in the army. It still seems like some bullying that went on forever. Sounds horrid. Didn’t think the charges were that severe.
imo the mistake was not firing the toxic men.
illegal to reject based on sex, also wrong long term solution, like what would that solve? it will only reinforce the toxic company culture.
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Brethren, there are levels to this, let me show you mine.
When I said that you’re being naive, this is exactly what I’m talking about…
…there is no difference between their stated values and the rules you have to abide by.
You think that they are being hypocritical because you are gullible, and you obviously don’t understand the nature of your relationship with Blizzard.
I couldn’t care any less as to what happens over at Blizzard, continue making World of Warcraft entertaining for me to play and I will stay subbed, that’s the nature of our relationship.
Why would I feint outrage on forums, for what, likes on my post!?
Or how about fire the men who make that work place a toxic cesspool and guys just stop being toxic {redacted}? Or is it too difficult to just not be sexist and not sexually harass women/people?
I mean, I manage to live my life not being sexist, not making sexist comments and not sexually harassing people 
it’s really not that difficult…
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And that’s why a girl committed suicide because it was illegal not to hire her. Obviously it’s not a long term solution. Definitely hiring a girl was not the solution. Splitting the workers into different departments, giving them some work ethic classes idk.
So hopefully it changes and you yourself don’t ever end up in a situation like this. As a man it’s much less likely – but that’s the thing, now it’s this next time it is something that will affect you or me. Well anyway – indeed you don’t need to engage in this. Nobody is forcing you or me.
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Are you saying that it’s better to burn an entire department just to hire women, irregardless of what it makes? That defeats the purpose of having a company. The goal of the company is to make a product that will sell, not to fill gender quotas.
First of all we do not know why she committed suicide. What is most likely that after her comprimitting photos were allegedly passed among her collegues, she decided to did so. Not because she was hired.
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No,. That’s imo the wrong way to look at it. I get what you’re saying tho. Imo there’s never any excuse for these people. What got her killed was the burden of those photos, god knows how many years of abuse etc. Not the hiring. She like us has a right to a normal work environment.
The fact that it was a toxic cesspool there is on Blizzard’s leaders. They should’ve changed, the state gave them 2 years, they did not. Now the state is involved.
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I’m saying maybe hold the men who pushed her to suicide responsible
If those men didn’t make a “toxic cesspool” work environment or had been fired for making the work environment one then we wouldn’t be having this conversation, but in your head we should just let them get on with it and just not hire women. Men can carry on being toxic {redacted} and never ever be held to account for it.
That’s how we end up with the mind set of women being nothing but sexual objects and some men become incredibly dangerous because they don’t stop at just words, but I guess it’s fine because we can just stop women leaving their homes at all eventually right?
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decided to check their stonks and they are goin down down.
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And if a company cannot make that product without either violating discrimination laws or engaging in discriminatory employment practices to cover previous then they do not deserve to survive in the arena of business at all.
You are literally suggesting that either the employer discriminates against women or engages in archaic practices such as segregation all because male employees cannot conduct themselves in a way that is compliant with requirements under law, what is wrong with you?
Whatever next, let’s not go after the murderers and tell people they just aren’t allowed to live wherever murderers go and sod their liberty? How about you put the culpability to change on the one bringing the problematic behaviour and if they can’t change and get in line you punish them under the law.
Don’t punish Jimmy because Tommy is being a prat. You punish Tommy. You make Tommy change. Else you are simply normalising Tommy’s behaviour and creating a situation where it is socially disadvantageous to adhere to the law and preferable to break it. Utter madness.
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Stop pushing it towards the “all men are rapists” mindset. I bet they will be held accountable because it’s a criminal offence. This whole posts extends the rape ideology to all the frat boys and somehow puts drinking and cursing on the same level as pushing somebody to suicide.
The hiring policy is not the problem, the fact they run a business that is a cesspool is the one that needs sorting.
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You’re the one doing that when you say that women shouldn’t be hired in the same companies as men tho
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