iam not trying to insult you iam just laughing at you
My anecdotal experience says otherwise, people who did casual PvP as their main-mode were aplenty back when the systems facilitated them adequately.
Also, said PvE gear isn’t completely useless in PvP, it’s just not AS good as PvP gear. It’s still a much, much better place to start from than being in questing greens/blues. Separating the 2 gearing systems would also enable there to be a much more generous rate of getting decent baseline PvP gear, without it undermining PvE progression.
In order to squeeze fun out of PvP, you kinda have to maintain a degree of parity between you and the competition, unless Blizzard were to implement ilevel brackets.
Agreed…so, as soon as you have separation on gear, there is a problem for casuals, just dropping into PVP…when I indulge in some PVP, it is in AV, precisely because gear is less important.
I totally get why competitive Arena type PVP, needs a currency for gearing etc.
What seems self-serving is that hardcore PVPers, who do not put any time into the PVE game that keeps the lights on, and race to get fully PVP geared, while PVE players are concentrating on getting to Raid standard…want to be able to oneshot casual players for the entire PVP gearing process in BGs, while yelling ‘GET GUD!’… and complaining about PVE peeps afking instead of ‘fighting properly’…not to mention PVE gear in PVP… then wonder why PVP numbers drop.
says a forst magee. we lol at ur DPS 
frost magee bottom of teir dps list at moment whata joke you are
If we are talking about WoD, we both know the lack of content had a significant influence on the amount of PVE players getting involved with PVP.
The problem for casuals would be imo addressed by said separation of gear, because like I said earlier, it would enable PvP baseline gearing to have a pace that doesn’t need to adhere to the limitations that it would have if it was tied to PvE progression.
The latter point about people wanting to feel superior, I think the differences between gear should in general be made less drastic, so people oneshotting with their superior gear wouldn’t be an issue.
I’m also not a fan of the gatekeep-y nature of PvP cliques. I don’t think separate systems would feed into that at all.
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I was more thinking TBC-Wrath era.
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who cares if pvp gear is good or even better in pve you should be happy about it
frost magees are forced to pvp becourse it is their only alternative 
that damage lel.
did you fall on your head?
no but belly hurts of all this loling 
i dont care about pve because its to ez and pointless
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Forsaken fost mage still does more damage than forum pve heroes
Sourse: common knowledge
yeah they good in classic aswell …
frost bolt , frost bolt , frost bolt , frost bolt , frost bolt , frost bolt , frost bolt , frost bolt …
Yeah they are literal godxes here
Didn’t do much PVP in TBC, gearing process distracted from my PVE progress… WotLK’s Wintergrasp was fun and had the dungeon to help gearing up, so that was probably the high point of my interest in PVP.
Thats the proper skill ceiling rotation for pve players, ngl blizz did it right
so much content on the forums compared to the game
Says bloke who goes to the same BGS and Arenas and does the same thing, over, and over, and over, and over, again…for years.
Bfa world pvp was awsome dou …