AI art and AA

I think just the fact that X was made by a human will always have a perceived value in the eyes of many and will always be seeked. However, the amount of skill artists will have to have before they´ll be able to go professional might end up being higher compared to today (especially when it comes to commissions of stuff like RP characters).

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Post this album art to frighten a machine:
https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Igorrr-Savage-Sinusoid.jpg

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I’d like to see AI try its hand at replicating Gabrielle d’Estrées et une de ses sœurs.

Would it be nightmarish? Probably. Am I here for it? Yes.

That is what I think as well.

It is similar to why bakers, butchers and restaurants still exist in a time of mass produced foods from the supermarket and the MacDonalds.

People want the real thing.

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AI art is quite a problem as have already been mentioned by alot of people even if it is for “just” character art.

It still will and do take from artists to be able to create things in the first place, that is the very least of the issues.

Also might be weird for some, but a personal reason for mine is that I feel like it completely removes the whole point of art in the first place if you just have an ai-bot whip up something in 5 minutes with no effort or soul to it.

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Think players can’t say much about it. Given how many of them use wow art to make art and sell it to other players.

Also, it’s always frustrating when people go “Ooh, you’re just scared of change and the future!”

No, not at all. I’m not ‘scared’ of procedurally generated digital images (the term ‘A.I.’ annoys me too), I’m just massively irked that people are apparently ok with all those programs being trained on scraped images from scores of artists who never gave consent or permission, and then acting like the programs are these super neat things.

The programs. Would. Not. FUNCTION. without real artists and the work that got fed into the digital grinder. And that work came with training, practice, effort and passion.
Artists deserve fair compensation. End of discussion.

(Those social media posts about ‘Why does no one make this art anymore?!’ with Renaisance era sculptures etc… Unspecified Relative in Deity, those were artists with VERY WEALTHY PATRONS, you absolute plum!)

Edit: Also, a reminder; the ‘Luddites’ were skilled workers who were exploited by wealthy business owners, and then violently oppressed when they tried to stand up for their rights.
Calling people Luddites just shows exactly how much boot people like to lick…

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Consider this stolen.

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We stand for non-denominational :poop: posting in this house :fist:

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And also like, people do? Like yeah it’s not as accessible and therefore not as commonly seen as something like traditonal or digital paitnings/drawings, but there are talented sculptors making absurdly detailed things out of stone or marble. It’s not a forbidden or disliked artform, it’s just somewhat more niche.

Not complaining at you by the way, I’m just amazed that these “traditional” Twitter accounts are so closed-minded that they blatantly ignore the creativity that exists around them.

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My honest guess is that a lot of people don’t consider the ethical implications of using procedurally generated “art” because it’s fast and convenient, so when the context of what they’re doing is pointed out there’s a scramble to defend themselves. Most people (myself included) have an impulse to get defensive when unexpectedly called out on something.

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It gets worse, AI has figured out how to remove or alter signatures from the original artists :skull:

And the AI is being fed these by datascaraping or people deliberately taking peoples art without their knowledge or consent, which is… Art theft :exploding_head:

Refferencing is not outright taking someones whole :peach: art gallery to feed a machine and vomit out art, it’s having it in a seperate window/tab/screen and trying to mimic a pose, the light, the colours, the texture or whatever.

We did, unlike what you posted.

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A double-whammy result of societies current psyche, where ‘apologising or backing down makes it seem like you are wrong and therefore that is WEAKNESS’ and the ‘Make everything a commidity, consume, capitalise and product, product, product!’

I dare people to imagine a new, different, better world, I beg

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AI doing basically the new equivelent of sketching/tracing art by pressing a drawing and blank paper against a window. But then also tries(and often fails with things like odd fingers) to shake things up juuust enough for it “technically” be different, yet also completly lacks any skill or creativity to do so properly.

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The entire thing seems to have motivated a lot of people to learn how to draw proper hands. Or share tutorials on how to learn how to draw hands.

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Step 1: Draw a human.
Step 2: Remove 95% of said human, leaving only hands.

Easy.

I… just realised one niche art commissioning community that will continue to not be happy with AI art until they figure out how to do hands… and feet. Because AI also can’t do feet.

Okayokay I’m leaving. Stop throwing stuff at me.

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I’m reminded of how there is an an online comic artist called Amy Revives that draws hands as just really pitch black blobs/scribbles, which apparently was initially done to cover up her self-admitted incapability to draw hands well. But then kept as a style thing even after she got better at them.

That reminds me of the sculpture made by Luo Li Rong, a Chinese Woman, where the alt-right bros were proudly claiming that it was Western art that no woman could ever do and what men have fought for.

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Her work is absolutely stunning.

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