Agreed, the 25 kill quest should not be doable in a raid. None of the other kill quests are available in raid so this must be an oversight, hope they hotfix this really soon.
Making a raid group zerging people down to complete a quest is not fun for anyone.
Where were you complainers when there was like 40 main raids vs. 10 alliance?
I couldn’t even do a quest without getting steamrolled.
Horde basically when a whole patch cycle with a free bonus that most Alliance players couldn’t take advantage of.
Off the cliff with you.
The morality of some alliance players has surely gone all the way to hell
The most hypocrite thing I’ve read on these forums today. And it’s evening for me…
Morally gray. You should know, you play horde.
I think the main reason they made 25 kills quest possible in raids is to let people taste PvP. They might change it later. Giving alliance boost encouraged them to team up and do PvP. It’s somehow working. It’s easier to get achievements.
Also, I don’t think hordes will ever turn WM off ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
A lot more ally have WM on now that’s why you’re getting these gank squads. Horde will be getting ganked a lot now I’m seeing it every zone i go I think horde just got too use to always having back up when engaging in a fight now it isn’t the same anymore you get camped
Argent Dawn WM is even worse now. Alliance was already outnumbering Horde there, now they even have 30% more bonus lol… nice move blizz
At least I quickly unlocked Highmountain Tauren allied race using my alliance toon
and where I play I’m still being outnumbered 3 to 1 at almost every world quest I go to as an alliance player.
Atleast this was hotfixed:
They cant balance shards because there is enough people from one faction so they need more from that faction so they can balance shards
You’d think people would realize that of you had twice the horde for every Alliance that even if you start moving them around in shards you’ll never get 50/50 across the board
The reason as to why i don’t wana join them it’s because they’re evil if we could get a 3th faction like The Argent crusade i’d join that then which is why i am wearing It’s tabard for when the day comes for the 3th faction i’d say i’ve been within the order ever since garithos became hitler.
Absolutely on point. As a pvp-er I don’t need neither those 10% or 30%, they are useless to me. What do I get, resources? What for. 150 gold? I can earn 1000 gold only by roaming by that same area and picking herbs. Some tiny amount of AP? Big deal.
They should really focus on fixing the real problem, faction inbalance in pvp, which grows larger and larger, not try to wipe the problem under the carpet.
Horde outnumbered alliance like 6 to 1. And more and more alliance started to turn WM off. If nothing wouldve been done, WM wouldve been completely exclusive to horde only. When alliance numbers start to even out, the 30% bonus will drop back towards 10%
I have been thinking about moving an horde char to AD, is it a bad idea? 
How can ally have 30% bonus on AD if they outnumber horde?
One more question, does all ally on EU have this bonus now? Why dont they have it rely on balance for each Shard/Server
It’s not only AD.
All normal realms are together in War Mode.
All RP realms are together in War Mode, but separate from normal realms.
Players from normal realms can join players on RP realms through LFG, and vice versa.
PvE % bonus calculated NOT from overall population or faction balance. Only players with War Mode ON. And Alliance population on RP servers are mostly RP/PvE players with WM off.
Bonus takes in account whole region - because any player can join any group and be sharded on any server. That is one of the reason Horde outnumber Alliance everywhere - getting players through LFG is a LOT quicker on Horde side.
So in addition to Horde having more PvP oriented players with War Mode ON, it can also get more and faster whenever needed.
You can move you char to AD - it’ll be fine, there is still more Horde than Alliance in War Mode. Only on Assaults population fluctuates from one side to another every 10-30 mins, and only in assault location.
Cheers for the answer
But is there really more horde than ally with WM on for all RP realms? Thought all Rp realms were ally heavy, how is this possible? or is it that people from the normal realms invade through lfg and increase the numbers?
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Copy without slashes in front, then click “RP” (purple piece), then look at “Faction: (All)”. Overall ratio is - Alliance: 61%, Horde: 39%. So it’s not really heavy.
Majority of Alliance on RP realms are there for RP & PvE only. They have WM off.
Majority of Horde on RP realms (just as on normal) are MUCH more PvP active players.
I play with War Mode ON 100% since day 1, and I like when there is more Horde than Alliance. If Alliance was outnumbering Horde I wouldn’t be happy, since I’m not in WM for PvE - WPvP is what I like the most, and less Horde for me means less targets and content - not something to be happy about.
As I’ve told before - almost every time I play I do roam around continents visiting all hot-spots and Azerite WQs.
Sometimes, Alliance camp certain areas / FPs / WQs / Assaults. Yes, that happens, and quite often. But Horde is doing it a lot more, and with bigger numbers.
It’s much more common to meet Horde group than Alliance group - it’s just more of them.
It’s much more likely to get into Horde camp, than to see Alliance camping, and when Alliance camp they definitely are getting wiped by Horde (killed + from LFG). While getting counter raid on Alliance side is not that easy - it takes more time, and it’s hard to get similar numbers in the end.
Some examples:
Here → RP warmode ruined for RP Horde? (RP Alliance getting global call to arms rewards despite being majority in RP warmode sharding system) - #40 by Coolgroove-defias-brotherhood
And here → RP warmode ruined for RP Horde? (RP Alliance getting global call to arms rewards despite being majority in RP warmode sharding system) - #25 by Coolgroove-defias-brotherhood
Less WPvP active players on Alliance side + more PvP active players on Horde side + easier to get more players through LFG for Horde than Alliance = More Horde.
Yes, it’s not “more horde 100% of the time in any location”, and that what’s all that horde crying on RP servers is about.
Sometimes there is just more Alliance players with WM on on that Assault than Horde. And it changes to more Horde, then to Alliance, repeats…
Overall faction ration around zones (outside of Assaults) is still - more Horde.
So - if you plan to play Horde here - maybe it won’t be as easy as on normal realms, but it’s still easier than Alliance. And if you don’t forget to use LFG - it’ll be just as easy.
Thanks cool!