Can’t deny it even if it was already obvious to many people here i’d like to speak it out again.
Alliance Players are constantly crying about unfair wpvp getting ganked corpse camped and whatever meanwhile don’t realize that they have the same tools like the horde but simply don’t want to use them. On my server shazzrah man you couldn’t go farm solo as horde because you would just get overrun by a group of allys at favourite farm spots and this was basically p2 in a nutshell on a 70/30 ream as HORDE.
But at the same time when ally groups are facing equal enemys in size they fall over like flys it’s actually funny, I always saw how ally raids are completly stomped by a 10 man horde raid in wpvp simply because alliance is just bad.
Same logic I want to use on Bg’s.
You join an AV horde pug vs ally pug = allys are afk, clickers and whatever they’re just there to gain their reputation and without any reason to want to pvp. Making them lose and come here in the forums and cry how cruel the horde is and how bad ally pugs are when it is actually YOU being the problem. I think as Horde Player iv’e never lost to an ally pug yet just because how bad alliance is.
Then you face premades you would think those players are any decent at this game but wrong thinking. They just join av pull all stuff together and pve their way to win and when you face them in a 1v1 they’re like ally pugs but just better geared. I have only seen 1 Rogue being an actual good player on ally side and this was 2 days ago. He deserved his rank 11.
Same thing then they come on the forums and want to defend their peanutlicker drek thar which is a pve figure for them and probably have a picture of him as honor pinata over their bed on the wall and whenever they go to sleep they give them a kiss and hope that av premades ain’t gonna get fixed so they can easily continue abusing it.
tldr: pvp as alliance is not bad because horde is overpopulated but because alliance player itself are bad. git gud
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I guess you are writing this while waiting in queue
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Huge crying hordie post about alliance how bad it is.
Yep their queues are getting longer.
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You are true. Alliance are for most of them terrible in PvP. Even as premade, they can loose vs a pug. I don’t talk about APES obviously, they are the best of what Alliance can have, but the others premade are just kek. Can you imagine a Horde premade loosing vs Alliance pug ? Literally impossible xD.
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no, literally is very wrong word here.
joined wsg with 5 mages and horde premade left after 20 mins.
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Why don’t you come over to the Alliance side and see how you manage without getting carried by the Horde.
I bet you would find out that you are not as good as you think you are.
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He is not.
It was peak server time, in the afternoon. Propably had a 50 min queue, entered bg, got stomped by mighty alliance in 6 mins and 10 sec.
It was enough to trigger one more whiny horde post about how bad alliance is. 
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I mean… horde can’t even premade av so…
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Sad truth, most alliance bad at pvp.
This are the new players who choose to play pretty characters, live in nice lloking cities and have well written interesting quests.
Almost all who care about PVP and know something about this game goes horde for gamebreaking overpowered racials for easy mode pvp.
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All try hard pvpers play horde because of the broken racials so that causes the imbalance. Not the racials themselves, but the try hards all getting on horde side because of them.
It has always been about the racials, in WOTLK all try hards switched to alliance for the human racial and horde was loosing wintergrasp every time.
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Yes, alliance is bad in pvp.
As soon as devs divide a playerbase into two, one of them will be the winning team and the other the loser team, because the slightest inequality (which can be completely random or bad game design - like uneven pvp racials) starts a self-accelerating process: the more players switch side the harder to remain in the loser one, that forces more people to switch, so on, until everybody leaves.
Horde has better pvp racials, so pro pvp players rolled horde, all pvp streamer rolled horde, so all their followers rolled horde. Alliance players found themselves outnumbered in wpvp so they transfered to pve, rerolled to horde or quit the game.
Whoever remained alliance don’t give a flying fck about pvp, they sign up AV to grind some rep for easy epics, that’s all.
For a real, challenging and dynamic world pvp you need more than 2 factions, so if one of them gets too strong the others can join their forces to beat it.
Or the system can let the players to build their own factions, like in eve online.
With only two factions the pvp system never really worked and never will.
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Maybe on your server, horde stomped alliance in wg on mine.
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ahh here we go again alliance crying about 2(!!!) horde racials while ignoring their 6-7 own decent racials as if they don’t exist or are completely useless.
its funny how every thread eventually devolves into this. really shows how butthurt alliance players are in regards to racials, which they all knew about before classic was even launched.
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There seems to be a slight difference in mentality compared to private servers ive played, that has an impact on a large scale level.
On private servers there were alot of hardcore players on horde, can get very nice logs with good WF rng, but pvp specifically alot of hardcore players chose alliance.
Edit: maybe unpopular but could just be that private server players were better on average at the game too
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Racial are just a bad excuse. They doesn’t matter in large scale PvP. They only matter in duel 1vs1 or 2vs1, very small scale PVP.
Do you think my Wild of the Forsaken or the Orc stun resist can help you to face 4 players ? Same for your Perception or Anti-fear Priest, Stone form.
Racial are for sure, helpfull sometime, but they doesn’t really matter. It’s not like TBC or WOTLK when you do 2vs2 and 3vs3, here racial matter.
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Not just 2, Taureans warstomp and free hp increase is better then all alliance racials combined
Easier to blame racials than to admit your chosen faction (lolliance) is just full of baddies.
not to mention that human priest have a ghetto version of Lay on Hands which is extremely good for pvp… horde priests get some really nad priest racials by comparison.
disease debuff and shadow ‘lightning shield’
I was on Sylvanas which was pretty balanced, but like I said all the try hards switched to alliance for broken human racial, so that turned the tides in our favor.