i stood for all NO changes all or none is me.
WHo ever is responsible for classic is idito.
blizzard since you are starting to break the #nochanges. then do the other ones aswell. whan pvp came out peeps cried begged for elite guards at flight paths and encampments and towns and you didnt do it. now peeps cry AV and you do make changes… so do the rest aswell then. or lets skipp all the changed and make it directly into retail style?..
Lol. Are you sure you’re trying to discourage camping? I see it as encouragement and also
Could you address why world PvP too?
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This guy is seething
The bad version of classic is actually classic itself.
Give us Nostalrius Begins back,
Ramsey only needed 5.
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Much longer. So much longer.
Kind of hilarious that blizzard thinks this will stop alliance from effectivly premading av
Gj crybabies. Enjoy your 2h+ queues now 
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Being spiteful makes you the bad guy.
Actually, the queue will be back to sub-10mn on Horde side for AV. Because newcomers will come back to AV, people that deserted AV due to premade and 10vs40 will come back, and top Horde rankers will go back to WSG.
Finally a nice queue time.
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This is great news. No changes was really controversial anyways because back in the day the dev team made adjustments to current situations. No idea how it will affect my ranking but dont care, resubbed. (would have resubbed anyways but now I feel good about it.)
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This won’t change anything with AV… Just straight up nerf the honor gains if you want rankers to do anything other than AV…
This change will however make the game unplayable for alliance on gehennas (and probably other servers too) with horde now being able to gank and corpsecamp people for 10 kills instead of 4, world will be even more unbearable than it already is.
ATM, as alliance, you can’t quest or mob grind anywhere at any time in the world already, and 50-60 you’re more or less condemned to level in BRD farm groups. It’s getting so tiring to be killed every time you land from a flight or in your home cities or every 10m going to a dungeon, and this patch will make it even more rewarding to corpsecamp and gank people at flightpaths and on the boats… PLEASE DON’T GO LIVE WITH THIS CHANGE.
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The only pro. Alliance will not bother showing their face in BGs very much longer. The biggest losers will be horde with their 2 hour queue times.
This was obviously an economic decision. Whiney little losers leaving the game because they can’t win 90% of their games. So in order not to lose any more subs they have been given their 90% win rate back.
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Screw “Ally premade”, they are making honest people life difficult on both sides.
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Completely agree
Partly agree. I have encouraged an will encourage to group up, stop meeting up at the dungeons, meet up before moving towards them. Move as a group, farm with a group, if out-numbered call for help. There’s nothing bad if mass pvp will happen 
Partly agree because it will be fked up on majority realms as statistics are showing, only couple well balanced realms and those fkers aren’t giving faction transfers and I guess not limiting realm transfers (haven’t checked, but if people have full freedom in moving realms, it’s stupid)
only bad players are scared of ranking in wsg and I have no sympathy for them.
during the end of world pvp I saw rankers that where outside the top 400 push there way into the top 100 all because of AV. then around 60% of the top 100 where literally cast out of the top premade (real av ranking) on Mograine due to the top guilds giving spots to their members rather than the pvp players who lead the charge in world pvp.
Was nothing short of a PvE hero take over.
Yet I’ve been hearing rumours that APES have a couple of classic lua add on coders who are seeking to make AV work for them still by exploiting loop holes in the battlemaster client. It seems the PvE heroes are stopping at nothing to get easy honor.
I think Blizzard should just flat out nerf AV honor.
Its not like the game isn’t messed up. There have been dozens of changes and Blizzard haven’t given the true classic experience, by far the private servers did a far better job.
Nerf AV honor, force players in WSG and then the ranking system will actually mean something.
If it was me I would reset everyones ranks to 0 come next Wednesday. Around 75% of players who have ranked in AV don’t deserve their ranks.
Imagine being a PvE hero AV Grand Marshal.
Its disgusting and sickening. Takes the mick out of all us Vanilla players who literally grinded through WSG to get our ranks. Turning PvP into PvE is why huge chunks of PvP players left BFA.
Can’t do anything even as a 5 man BRD group. 5 * lvl 55s wont have any chance against 10 raid geared rank 11 horde just waiting to gank them…
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I believe they’re not alone, even if they die they can wait a minute and res on top of another alliance group going to BRD and help them kill. I have no idea how it looks like on Giga servers, I’m on Gandling and I don’t see raid roaming around. Usually solos, duos, rarely trios.
I support your plea. This change should probably not go live. Servers have too many players for this to have anything but an overall negative impact on the game.