Am I a ninja for rolling on cloth?

What to find out? He is rolling on caster items as resto shaman. That’s fine. If the item is an improvement it doesn’t matter if it is cloth, leather or (if he is 40+) mail.

Everyone who complains is playing the wrong game and go back to Retail where there is no valid reason anymore to role on cloth items if you’re a plate, mail or leather caster. As long as you keep your rolls to one spec it shouldn’t matter what the armor class is.

Guess nowadays you will need to tell in advance of an instance when rolling on other armor classes when it’s an improvement for you… In Vanilla this was common.

How can you have that kind of attitude as a healer? im a tank and even i dont think ‘‘why should i care, takes me 2 mins to find a group anyways’’ :joy: healers aren’t rare at all on my realm actually, tanks are though :grin:

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Roll for the role you came as, and don’t pay too much attention to the armor type.

That is don’t roll on +hit cloth if your there as a healer, or at least ask first.

Conversely don’t roll on the +4 int, +27 spi cloth as a warlock.

At the end of the day it’s just pixels so don’t be a greedy goblin.

The only overlap you’d have as a priest with a shaman is “+ damage AND healing” if you have a problem with both rolling on that then the door is over there.

It gives us wand dmg with agility how is thst we dont need when i dot em up and then wand when Balrok donhis shadowbolt to finish off lol…

No your not, some clth gear is bis for shams, druids and palas

Because if people complain that a healer is rolling on a cloth item that is better than what he is currently wearing, those are people I don’t want to play with, because they didn’t understand the game. No matter what role I am currently playing. Not if I am DD, not if I am Tank and not if I am healer.

And since most of the time the people complaining are either Warlocks or Mages it is harder to get a replacement for the healer than for the DD.

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Intellect leather/mail/plate pieces are rare and often mediocre, so it’s normal to wear cloth.

People need to understand that this is the Vanilla they’ve been asking for, and not Vanilla with Cata rules. From Cata on, they made sure that every spec was catered for and had access to appropriate gear of the correct type. Before then, we wore a mix of anything with the correct stats.

It would be mean of you to take items which specifically increase the damage of Fire/Frost/Shadow spells, but int/mp5 and anything which increases spellpower and healing is fair game. At lower levels, a piece with more Intellect is obviously an upgrade.

You can tell them from the beginning you intend to roll on X item, and if they protest, you can leave and look for a different group to avoid drama.

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Ancestral Healing and Illumination would like to have a word with you. While paladins benefit hugely from spellcrit, shaman do too because Ancestral Healing scales with the target’s gear.

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If it has good stats you take it and if it does not you leave it.

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I guess, I don’t know if healing expects crits to happen often, since any amount of overhealing would be useless, or maybe I’m just thinking of the boss target healing there. My experience has been a little time with druid and the most time healing spent on priest.

You are not a ninja. Period. This is Classic. Healers roll on ANY gear that is an improvement. Period.

It is always good to talk about it in advance with the party so that you are all on the same page. This is the classic social experience afterall. The other players are not annonymus randoms here.

you could even assemble a group with classes whose gear needs are not conflicting with yours.
For example I did SM armory with a warlock, a priest, a mage and a paladin (healer). I was basically the only contestant for the Ravager that droped since the paladin was only interested in intelect weapons.

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It is a myth and bigger the server, larger the mythos.

How can you leave out Inspiration? :frowning:

That’s exactly it. Tell people from the outset that you’ll be rolling on gear for stats rather than just the type. Ran WC with a shammy that was very apologetic about that but they didn’t need to be. Most of the group fully understood why. Those that don’t tend to be new and just need giving a tip to check the stats on an item rather than focussing solely on what it’s made of.

Itemisation in vanilla isn’t amazing. A lot of people need on cloth that don’t necessarily wear cloth. Half of Hpala BiS is cloth. Warrior pre raid BiS is a mail chest and leather legs!

So nope, I wouldn’t worry about it.

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People are saying it depends. Healers will roll cloth at lower levels, because it’s the only int (+ spirit) there is. You can wait till your leather/mail healer has leather/mail healing items, but that means they’ll be in whites till at least 40.

Everyone knew this, nothing has changed at all.

On the other hand, if you’re not sure if you’re needing on someone’s bis item just ask? “Hey, is it okay if I need?”. Very simple yet elegant solution.

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People get angry when the expectations they have are not met so creating the correct expectations for the others from the onset is a good way to avoid negative feelings.

A group of adventurers is after-all a cooperation between individuals who wish to benefit from the upcoming adventure.

At the end of the day an upgrade is an upgrade, if you see a piece that’s good for you and it isn’t anyone’s BiS or a class specific piece then go for it (always ask though, just in case).
Just don’t assume that you can roll for anything you want with no justification, if you’re an ele shaman and you roll for something with strength or agility on it with no intellect in sight then people are gonna call shenanigans.

Remember: just because you’re a healer doesn’t mean that you’re above loot rules or should be treated better than other roles, don’t become that guy.
No one likes that guy.

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