Are people seeing a healer problem in TWW

If you need me to tell you that, then you are not as smart as you look.

It has someting to do with blizzard being in control of a little spread sheet that has all the important numbers. Such as a base rejuve heals for x amount. They control this , we dont.

That spreadsheet ultimately decides who are gods and who are little peaons this season. And they decided at the start that shammies are gods and resto druids are just barely able and in need of buffs to make more viable.

I am not “picking” on you personally. Dont make that mistake.

What i am picking on is the fact that it took me 12 globals to get the same effect as one totem drop. And then we wonder why shammies are played by the top %50 of healers?

I dont care that they are the top. Good for them. Cool. Next.

But why am i being made to pop 12 globals to get the same effect as one button push in half a global? Not fair.

What i do is hard work. Lets have some parity. I have to pay far more attention to my health bars when there are 12 hots to keep up. 3 on tank and 3 on me, all others get 2 each and then i can switch the lifebloom from myself and, or, the tank if necessary to others that need it.

That is bloody hard work. If you think it is so easy to heal as a resto then do it. Then compare your work load as a resto and your work load as a shammy. You will be laughing.

You said tyou tried resto druid. Cool. Did you do 15 keys with it? Or just level one a little bit and did some normals and HC or maybe a few low keys?

Okay. Great. Cos they are roughly the same. Ony mine take 12 globals. They are close enough

I am not asking for shammies to be nefed. Dont get me wrong. Ths is not what it is about for me.

I had surgery on my wrists and the amount of work it takes to play my favorite class is ridiculous as it now requires every single global.

We have come a long way since the days of just needing a rejuve and a regrowth if you are lucky enough to get it. TBC or wrath druids no more.

Now druids are casting non-stop every single global for the entire duration of the dungeon with no downtime but to drink maybe twice. That that is every single second a button press for up to 20 minutes or more if unlucky. That is a lot of button presses. My wrists cant take that any more and i am not willign to do that to them anymore.

Playing druid is enough to cause RSI’s. Repetitive Stress Injuries.

I answered you why we cant heal with 1 totem drop in this post:

But TLDR Chain heal with 4/5 modifiers will heal for a lot. But we dont get it consistently. And we cannot predict WHEN. So you need to use your brain and plan ahead.

You are not getting what I am saying. You are arguing that with 1 chain heal we can top up a group. And you cant. And that is why Shamans are to[ 50% of healers.

That is your argument. What I am saying is we could do that as well in DF. And we werent top 50% of healers. Druid, with its 12 globals was.

THEREFORE… if YOU use your brain the logical conclusion is that it MUST be something else… it cant be High Tide stacked with modifiers that makes shaman OP. It has to be something else. RIGHT ???

And I even told you what it is ! HERE :

It has nothing to do with High Tide.

Then stop talking about shaman representation like that. Why dont you start talking about the real problems here !

All this has nothing to do with RShaman. You want RDruids buffed or changed mechanics wise ? Sure, be my guest.

But dont go arround crying that RShamans can do stuff you cant. And especially dont come in using personal injuries to justify that.

False. Secretaries in office jobs regularely work for longer than you play, at a higher average APM than you on a dungeon. And yet I dont see an epidemic of women with RSI’s on the hospitals.

Its a lame excuse. Im sorry for your injuries, but the fact that YOU personally are genetically predisposed to get them dosent mean everyone does, or, that a whole spec has to be designed just for you.

Just confirming to OP that there does indeed still exist players that would want to raid (N/HC) with a guild group - even if it’s content that some other people posting here have called “easy”, “pug-friendly” or whatever else. Personally, I detest pugs :slightly_smiling_face:

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My guild has the luxurious problem of having too many healers and tanks.

How do guilds even recruit today? There are very few guild topics in the forums and in the game chats. Did I miss some popular advertisement channel?

Thank goodness it’s still out there, that hope

I have mentioned in other healer topics resto druids hots (like rejuvs) aren’t working like they should.

But like every healer has a button or 2 buttons that does the same as 12 hots. 50% of the top shamans aren’t because of this. Then we should have seen evokers and paladins there way more too.
Like on pala i can just beacon of virtue into divine toll and it is a GG. And those 2 buttons aren’t even long cooldowns.

I certainly hope blizz does something about the druids hots. That will instant be the moment druid will take over shaman’s spot in the meta.

Lets not turn this into another «nerf shaman» topic. This was about raidhealing and shaman isnt king there afaik.

To OP: good luck on your recruitment, i dont know where u’re advertising but try to go to several arenas to advertise and bump up the posts so they dont disappear. Healers wanting a social guild experience are definitely out there. Fingers crossed for you :blush:

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What’s wrong with it?

But our throughput is good? We are below shamans not because of that.

Shaman is king on “noob” level. Every other spec right now requires much more skill to reach this kind of raidhealing. So basically for majority you could say shaman is king in raidhealing.

I guess it depends on the expectation of why people wanna raid “only HC” and not go further into Mythic.

Personally, i hate to commit time and scheduling to a raid that just want to down some Mythic bosses without aiming at Cutting Edge, Mythic bring a lot of issues to guild that imo are not worth the hassle to down some extra bosses.
The only time i would commit to Mythic raiding is with a guild that is capable of getting CE mount to all their raiders.
And even then, sometimes the time required to commit is just too much imo.

But there are not many people thinking this way, at least in the experience i had. So i either end up in guilds that wanna go dabble in mythic after HC or guilds that barely finish HC, which is not something i personally enjoying.

Before you had to setup your hots and had to trust they healed, now they do almost nothing except buffing your regrowth.

What? Since when?

You seem to be the only rdruid who is happy with the amount they heal. So good for you.

https://youtu.be/z8C3bNgFEGk?t=36
(Jack)

I mean… because the heal is good, so I am happy, ye. If you check wcl mythic healing stats, druid is doing fine too.

What is it supposed to show me? He is obviously speaking for the top of the top M+ people, not the progression of the majority. Meanwhile Rdruid is not struggling with throughput, we just have mediocre utility or even poor utility compared to shamans.

Whatever you are fine with :+1:
And the utility and survivability of druid is of course bonkers in comparison to shaman. Even a battleres, lol.

Since the gold was taken there is real active drive to recruit. Which shows that most guilds only recruiting to get teh gold and did not really care at all. Many guilds were built for the sole purpose of getting gold, nothing else. Soemtimes people would have multiple guilds for the purpose of makign gold.

For me guilds have nothing at all to do with gold.

In my experience for raids not really. Same in DF. For m+ there seems to be a healer shortage.

Your guild is relative big with more than 300 members and you already have 35 healers, so one - or two reasons could be: 1. Healers don’t want to join a big guild who already have so many healers…maybe they think they will get benched too much? Or 2. Maybe they just prefer smaller guilds?
Also from your website: "Our humor is not for everyone and some might take it offensive. Joining is at your own risk.".…doesn’t give everyone a warm fuzzy feeling and could scare some away.

You can recruit how you want of course, just trying to give some pointers here.