Arms warrior nerf when?

[Alythena-ravencrest]

ppl asking rogue nerfs on the other thread

here ppl asking arms nerfs

[Beloezoloto-deathwing]

Soo after paying 2 euro to old gypsy in metro station she looked me in the eyes and said arms are OP and nerfs are coming. Also Joe, Li Gma and Dragon agree, just search some posts all over myspace and viber groups.

AWC is something completly unrelated to the discussion. There are lots of scpecs that aren’t used there, are they as strong as warrior? Not even close. Solo shuffle tournament can be interesting, but still, top 100 players do not represent the game.

[Ayva-hydraxian-waterlords]

@Beloezoloto-deathwing

AWC is something completly unrelated to the discussion.

How is AWC unrelated to the discussion, when AWC and the ladder meta is the same?

@Beloezoloto-deathwing

top 100 players do not represent the game.

Good thing you have an even broader ladder to look at, which shows the same thing.

[Proeliator-argent-dawn]

@Aayle-aegwynn

Thank god spear doesnt lock you down

How about you learn to play and actually gate the spears like you’re supposed to?

@Aldamaal-kazzak

“l00k aT aLL tHe rEtS!!!”

ret is unironically one of the, if not the worst class to play in the game atm lol ur like the only dps spec with no 100-0 burst, no mortal wound, no % dam reduction and a purgeable defensive. Used to be my 2nd alt/main but after WoD Ret has been the most unfun spec in the game xd

@Lidskoe-deathwing

Who cares about 3v3? 3v3 are comp vs comp, what does a spec tier mean?

Tell me you’re the guy who posts “2,4k shuffle exp” in ur premade groups without telling me you’re the guy who posts “2,4k shuffle exp” in ur premade groups.

@Fàlcor-firemaw

no really a long time warrior representation has risen a hell of a lot assa and arms are by far the most played melee now why do warriors think its just a coinsidence and their class is fin assa rogues admit theirs is broken but no not arms warriors…

Is it actual ‘representation rise’ or is it just all the warrior players jumping back on their mains to see if their is finally playable after the buffs or nah? Probably the latter, and the answer to that has been ‘no’ thus far.

@Saltx-stormscale

Posting in a bloodlock thread

I’m starting to think this guy has a lukewarm IQ indeed lmao

[Bloodlock-onyxia (Bloodlock)]

@Proeliator-argent-dawn

I’m starting to think this guy has a lukewarm IQ indeed lmao

Nah, this guy is apparently just a fan.

You didn’t answer my question btw.

[Ràkar-stormscale]

wtf is this mogg man xD

[Bloodlock-onyxia (Bloodlock)]

Can’t tell you here. Will only get me a suspension.

[Ràkar-stormscale]

o.o oh my gawd okoru#21480

[Gheluvelt-argent-dawn]

All the people I know in PvP have given up trying to heal solo shuffles, the melee zerg is just boring and brainless gameplay. The Arms buffs didn’t help, especially when they combo spear with bladestorm. That can’t be countered, it’s the epitome of the class. Low IQ, easy class that can do massives amount of damage whilst pressing a few buttons. This on top of having a mortal strike and countless gap closers, stuns and interrupts.

Id love for all these warriors to try and play an enhancement shaman, you don’t know how well you have it.

Solo Shuffle will be a low IQ meme unless they fix the melee train game.

[Alythena-ravencrest]

@Bloodlock-onyxia

Can’t tell you here. Will only get me a suspension.

i tought of one police academy scene

[Aayle-aegwynn]

@Proeliator-argent-dawn

How about you learn to play and actually gate the spears like you’re supposed to?

sure next time i go to class trainer as devastation evoker and learn gate, thank you so much

[Ràkar-stormscale]

Tyross learn gate pls ok?! OK!

[Alythena-ravencrest]

@Aayle-aegwynn

sure next time i go to class trainer as devastation evoker and learn gate, thank you so much

gatekept

[Aayle-aegwynn]

idk how ppl cant get what toxic and dumb spell design is.

YoU cAn GaTe SpEaR.

yeh, thats the same good excuse as, shroud is purgable so its a fine design.

Its not what it is about. There are certain things in the game, that are just bad design. And they arent needed no matter on how op or bad the class is. IT took them so long to adjust dks covenant ability, conflag root and Frozen Ammo.

[Alythena-ravencrest]

it dont have to be gate, u can do it with anything when timed on the time that the mechanic is pulling u back

https://youtu.be/mbsZo84yuvM

theres old markers guide on it to get the general idea

my suggestion would be ask warrior friend spear u or go elwyn/durotar ask somebody and u walk out of it and then when its about to pull u back u try some ability with class x ur testing

then u can just practice it onwards whenever once u know what works

but yep

[Lichbørne-outland]

Do we remember Arms warrior talent tree before this rework? Specifically line where you had to choose between: Storm bolt - Double Time - Impending victory. Why can you have all 3 now? Bounding Stride - Defensinve stance, you can have both now. Spec got handed all the mobility from old tree.
Why did they also bake Blademaster’s torment in a tree so you get free bladestorm to become immune to cc. Unhinged during bladestorm.
Why spear hasn’t been touched yet, when abomb limb got gutted hard.
Spec has 3 bis lego and old talent tree on steroids in form of new tree.

[Lukíen-burning-legion]

Okay so seems like we agree on some points and I will try to avoid those (to not just praise each other)!

@Ayva-hydraxian-waterlords

Fully agree, in another post (Or was it this one?) I mentioned I think it should last 2 or 3 pulls max, even when playing Warrior, it doesn’t feel satisfying to use either as there are also buggy ways to get out of it, which leaves it unfair for a general counterplay perspective (And I wouldn’t be surprised if it did get this kind of nerf soon, since DKs got similar)

Okay so for me it’s not even the fact that it can pull indefinitely but the fact that so many people seem to struggle with that fact. As a rogue I am rather lucky to have many outs for each of the goes but I try to stay unbiased (which is impossible at some points ofc) and try to see the view from everyone in the game and not ONLY my main class.

@Ayva-hydraxian-waterlords

This is one of my bigger issues (And it’s not pointed towards you, fret not)
But lately, it seems a lot of people dont admit to the mistakes they make vs Warriors (which is why so many Myself included are quick to point out the errors), Like the many screenshots or clips, where people tank a warrior popping 5 cooldowns to do their go, and then the enemy player does nothing in return.

Absolutely and I think the forum has a lot of people complaining about things that could be avoided by looking into the classes and as I mentioned. I think rogues might even counter warriors in some cases due to the “outs” we do have but my frustration comes from warriors having a really good toolkit, being overall strong, and people on the forums calling warriors “dogsh**” and that “they are finally balanced”. Imagine classes who cannot negate warrior damage, disarm their goes etc, how fair is it for them? You should ABSOLUTELY NOT tank a warrior pressing 5 cds without reacting (which you can see me commenting about in other posts). 5 cds vs 1 cd is also not enough (depending on the situation) etc etc.

I don’t think warrior is broken and oneshots people with a single global but I think it is currently overtuned (and we can have a discussion about that). But people responding with “lol no they are not” just seems like anyone who would say “lol assa is not strong atm you are just bad”…

@Belver-argent-dawn

https://youtu.be/nYirE4hoHCY i will just leave it here

Whenever you post I have the feeling what you are actually thinking is something along the lines of: “Idk why my dad went out for milk 10 years ago but hasn’t come back yet… Must be a lot of traffic xD”

The way you are arguing isn’t even like “well warriors do not have a lot of S-tier comps similar to assa” it is like “lol assa is stronger stop complaining”…

Like I said, I try to look at wow from a non-rogue-view standpoint as well and imo assa, dh, ele, uh is just overtuned.

[Saltx-stormscale]

@Gheluvelt-argent-dawn

All the people I know in PvP have given up trying to heal solo shuffles, the melee zerg is just boring and brainless gameplay. The Arms buffs didn’t help, especially when they combo spear with bladestorm. That can’t be countered, it’s the epitome of the class. Low IQ, easy class that can do massives amount of damage whilst pressing a few buttons. This on top of having a mortal strike and countless gap closers, stuns and interrupts.

Id love for all these warriors to try and play an enhancement shaman, you don’t know how well you have it.

Solo Shuffle will be a low IQ meme unless they fix the melee train game.

Post on main. Caster lobbies are far worse than the “melee trains” you speak of.

[Fàlcor-firemaw]

abomb limb was actually easier to counter than spear

[Gheluvelt-argent-dawn]

Try playing a caster when your team mates don’t know how to CC whilst two melee cleave you in half? Especially with spear, mortal wound and bladestorm. There is no counter to dumb team mates. It’s stupid gameplay and only a warrior would defend it.

Also I dare you to make an enhancement shaman and get 2400 rating in Solo Shuffle, we can all ask for things that’s not going to happen.