Have u tried this life still? Its nothing, its an ofensive CD against MC/Fear. And much more usless for UDK, coz he have 0 dmg outside the pets and cd-s on them.
Yeah our off healing is a bit sick. Currently we need the self healing to not instant die but there is no reason we should heal our teammates that much.
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I know DS has been nerfed and currently is not quite reliable but DKs are not so bad as forums want to show them look. You did watch the AWC yesterday, right?
Plus DKs still have one of the best anti-magic defense. Frost DK is actually pretty good.
DS might need some buffing but not such that to turn you again into the DS spamming obnoxiously OP thing DKs were in BFA.
All about coz warrior superman ATM, they played defensivly and war carry the team. Also they play at war, coz no variants + he is tanky as f. And retart cleave as war + ret shows how it can be.
I could say the same for war + ret, itâs the ret. Warrior just stops setups with his utility and gets supported all time by ret heals while waiting for ret super burst.
What iâve seen only broken combust can kill war if all team CC-d and war out of cd-s and its not 100% kill. in 50% cases he survive combust solo. His tankinets and team carry will be nerfed i think.
Well, DKs are the most well equipped to easily survive combust so you should be happy about it, while pro war player gets 1 shot 
Again while also out damaging the other top speccs.
Without pre AMZ no, AMS broken in 1 global. Combust CD less than 1 minute.
Yep⌠but according to some people in this thread⌠that kind of healing âfits the Paladins class themeâ. In which universe I have no idea, but yep⌠I hope something gets done about that kind of off healing.
not having an s tier comb = bad. okay nice logic. Just because a spec isnt dominating in the awc doesnt mean its bad. We saw one boomy in awc and he lost the game. Are boomies bad? no.
You can play feral/hunt and feral/fire at rank 1 level easily.
Then does that mean FDK < War < Ret?
Iâm sure Dkâs are just loving having 1/4 of a rets burst and 1/10 of a rets healing currently but there you have it FDK is âviableâ in arena, what to say about rets⌠really balanced and near equal.
But apparently having a S tier comb = good? okay nice logic. Just because a spec was played by a single pro player at a high rating on a tournament doesnât mean itâs good. See what I did there? Talking about FDKâs but Iâm sure you know it.
Probably, if you need to make some simplified comparison.
FDK is not at all unviable in arena. Itâs not on the level of ret but ret is overtuned.
If talking simply about those 3 specs, ret insta healing through WOG should be nerfed or/and removed or drastically decreased when used on other team members.
Arms utility should be also decreased, probably in the form of intervene duration decreased or CD increased. Overwatch is also a candidate for some nerfs.
FDK might need some buff on DS, but keep in mind, they already have some really really strong mechanics and if they get buffed too much, next thing is all crying about FDKs constantly pulling whole teams and killing them.
And if we look beyond those 3, into a bigger perpsective we still have, boomkin, fire mage, ww, sp, afli locks, that should also be looked at if others are to be as well.
Thatâs what most players that donât play ret want to see fixed. The discrepancy is just too big in terms of flat damage and healing numbers and the utility/mobility/defensives is not nearly as bad as ret players want to make it sound. Itâs disgusting really, rets can easily duel people spending every single holy power on WOGs and still have plenty of damage to kill.
It kind of does mean that, that in combination with ladder presence (in combination with historical data).
SP/Fire/Ele/Warrior/Ret/Holy (Paladin) are all good - if you arenât one of those or their best comp doesnât happen to rely on the support of your spec, then your spec is not good.
If a spec is not in the meta then, for obvious reasons, the spec is not good.
No, Moonkins are pretty bad outside of their RNG convoke (which many donât even play because itâs too inconsistent).
Just because a spec is bad / not good, that doesnât mean there is nothing wrong with it (e.g. Convoke).
When everyone has agreed that there are (somehow) 123102440 S tier comps this season, but somehow Feral has none then yes, Feral is bad.
Most people have completely misunderstood that tier lists are supposed to be relative. Many of the things people call S tier this season arenât really S tier compared to other things that people call S tier, and are instead more like A tier, and the things people call A tier are really B tier (etc).
Feral comps are really B tier.
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looks like devs traded corruptions for random burst windows with divine toll and crazy offhealing for few classes
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Yes, agree, I want to see that nerfed too as I have stated numerous times, even though I too play sometimes ret.
One of the anti arguments is âbut if we use it for healing we donât do dmgâ. It does not cancel the fact itâs absolutely op, because itâs not uncommon to almost top yourself or a teammate as ret with one WOG and then continue to spam dmg, absolutely broken.
Survival has neither.
Surviv-what?
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