As boring as expected

Well… Stats actually means a lot on retail. Especially with azerite traits and talent, which allow you to create builds over said stats. Without those stats, no viable builds.

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The reason is because this is an RPG. It’s a dated one, but it’s still fun for people who like those games. This was made for slow computers, 15 years ago. It was made for all people, young and old. BTW if you play a hunter, you get like 8 buttons by lvl 10, dunno how others are doing. I know that there’s going to be people who like BFA, but retail WoW no longer is a proper MMORPG. It really doesn’t belong in that category anymore. It’s more like warframe now, you get into an instance with randoms, you can chat, you can hang around in your hub, but the people around you don’t really matter anymore. I’ve been playing Classic for 2 days now and only a few hours, and I’ve had more interactions with people than I’ve had in the entirety of BFA (about 4 months of playing, quit the second month after release, came back this summer right before 8.2 and played that for 2 months). WoW Classic is an MMORPG. Again, dated, but still a state of the art MMORPG, like RuneScape is (atleast OSRS, dunno if the new one is still). You play MMORPG’s to have fun with others and depend on others. Manually getting your spells, easily dying if you pull a second mob, having to walk everywhere, having to read quests, having to find out stuff by yourself or asking some people around you for help. That’s what it’s all about. If Classic is a wooden staircase, retail is a fully AI controlled elevator that detects where you want to go and what you want to do.

But I do understand that that’s not for everyone. You don’t bring anything to the table, you just copy pasta’d someones opinion here. But I still want you to understand that what you are playing. Don’t forget, what you are now playing is the rejected breed of what the majority of it’s players wanted. You’re the weird kid now, Classic is taking the world by storm, the masterpiece of an MMORPG is back.

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Games aren’t supposed to be hard to gamers anyway, challenging sure. I think hard is the wrong word.

I dont think it’s a big deal to not think a game is fun. I dont like Minecraft, I didn’t even like Legos as a kid.

A huge post for nothing if you ask me, since it doesn’t answer my question at all.

Enjoy classic at your heart’s content dude, but that’s not the point here.

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No they don’t. Armour classes are meaningless, normalised armour values, normalised primary stat values. No secondary stat gains from primary stats. No spirit, no MP5, no elemental resistances or damage stats. What is there like 5 stats in retail now and only 3 matter to any spec?

I don’t count agi,str,int as separate stats in retail, because they’re not.

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Bfa fans on suicide watch, retail dead.

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Wtf ?? Try to build the low-rng outlaw rogue without haste, you’ll see if that’ll work.

I believe you don’t actually play end-game retail, dude.

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I mean you’re ****posting while you haven’t even tried it yet, play the game and come back with a real response instead of wasting your dungeon queue timer here.

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Classic is an RPG, BfA isn’t.

I like RPGs. Conclusion; Classic is better than BfA for meg.

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So what stats does that rogue use? Agi, haste, crit? And no, I don’t play BfA at end game. I played it for 1 week and quit because it was lame.

I tried it actually, and the very fact that people tell me to gtfo without actually answering my question, someone, is starting to slowely answering it.

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You’re not welcome anyway, gtfo.

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I don’t think you have any rights to say if I’m welcomed in classic or not.

Well, you don’t. Nice butthurt player, tho.

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Everyone in this thread that agree with him and praise BFA, can you please just log the fk off from classic so we dont have to sit in 15k ques? Thank you.

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So, yeah, people don’t want to answer, and actually go for insults.

I think I got my answer then. Said people are just stupid.

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Zero arguments how bfa is any way or form more challenging or complex than classic without going to strawman refering to mythic raids or high m+ keys.

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Hold on. In Classic you don’t (usually) spam abilities, you time them. As a rogue combo points and energy are precious, you make a choice when your resources are up and you use them; in retail after a PvP session my fingers hurt. Same goes for mana, rage (well, unless a bear), etc. Retail’s action bars are a game of whack-a-mole.

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At least while leveling it’s not so simple (for mages). You have to keep an eye on your mana, your threat, and your hpoints. You have to bother to position yourself, cc or immobilize your enemies at the right time, and use potions and whatnot if things get difficult.
Moreover, thanks to the lack of balance (from my limited experience) each class feels quite unique (for they don’t share the same abilties with different names) and playing is not reduced to merely getting the maximum DPS out of your character (see support).

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Thank you for an actual answer.

Well, that’s pretty much the same in retail, especially if you talk about rogues. You easily run out of energy, so you have to also time your rotations.

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oh u want to say u press more than 2 buttons while leveling in bfa at level 20?
first level to 60. experience whole cntent and then compare. coz u are def not higher than 20.
and the difficulty is not in the amount of buttons u can press…

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