AV is broken, Horde wins 100% of all games

I know this troll/clueless person, he claims that hunters are fine and feign death should not drop combat instantly… even tho everyone has already offered proof otherwise. Best to ignore this scrublord.

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They could still organize pseudo premade via discord, since queue is instant, and still be different servers.

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I am glad you now understand

Guys

You can only queue as an individual in AV

You have no control over which BG you are placed in

If players queuing at the same time hit the same BG they are in no way cheating or breaching the rules

It is simply the way Blizz are choosing to open and fill AV instances

That’s the long and short of it

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

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You do understand that you are becoming the fool of the forums

You are taking an intractable stance against a system Blizzard force players to operate within - over which they have no control

Blizz could choose to open 40 AV instances at once tomorrow and add one player to each on turn from the queue

If they did so they would solve the complaints regarding guilds and friends hitting the same queue

But it is their choice to operate the queue as they do

NOBODY IS CHEATING

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The most ridiculous part of your arguments is that they’re all based on the premise that it’s intended usage by design, just because it’s possible.
That the arbitrary limitation to disable queuing as a group/raid is not intended by design to prevent queuing as a group/raid.
That it’s an intentional benefit to the smaller matchmaking pools (since it can’t be done in gigantic pools due to the amount of new BG instances per second which rapidly speeds up the random assortment of players, or in the case of Horde in the merged EU matchmaking pool where they do split them up if they queue at the same time as only a few people, although it would however increase the rate of success as a full 40-man timing the queue).

That the lack of punishing people for it should mean that it’s not something they recognize to be a violation of the rules even though it falls under the technical definition of game exploitation in their rules.
That they passively permit it when they haven’t even officially recognized it to be a thing in the first place.

That’s what you’re claiming with your arguments.

Nice one.

i said it many times and i wil say it again. When av started all top aliance players played bc they wanted exalted for items thats when horde had zero chance. after 1-2 days all these top players reached exalted and stoped playing. So now all noobs play and alts so horde now dominate simple

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Again - anybody reading your posts who plays the game will form the same conclusion

You are a fool

Nobody queueing as an individual can control the BG they join

For sure - queuing at the same time currently makes it likely that will hit the same one - but that is intended by way of Blizzards chosen system

You have no argument

NOBODY IS CHEATING

NOBODY IS EXPLOITING

IT IS WHAT IT IS

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You’re basing it on such thin sophistry that it just looks ridiculous.

No - you are using big words you don’t understand and when you feel very foolish you snip one phrase from a longer post

What you are is incorrect

You will always be incorrect because no individual can control the queue

Only Blizz can

I can’t decide if you really are retarded or simply a troll

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and simply reported you as a troll

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Yea right cuz all the top alliance players don’t want the good pvp gear that they Can get from Ranks… just admit it, horde adapted to your zerg by actually playing as a team. It’s amazing how bad you alliance players are. Tho i guess i would also be butt hurt if i played alliance on Shazzrah

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It’s not broken,it’s just that alliance tries to rush through a group of horde,gets wiped,and then 10+ players just give up

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World of Hordecraft

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From what I understand you can premade in AV. many alliance in my server run the addon ClassicPremade with around 20-40player premades all the time and it works fine with the instant queue.(just so they can improve on drekrush)

However, ordinary AV starts to feel a bit frustrating since people don’t understand we have to make the superior tactic now, the only thing people have the capacity to discuss in the cave is “LeFT oR rIgHt zeRGtRaIn?”

Hitting horde hard at Balinda should be a valid option, but why would we start a fight…

So you’re essentially saying that all the “good” Alliance PvP:ers farmed their rep-items, then stopped PvP:ing.

I’m not sure of the logic in claiming to be the superior PvP-faction while at the same time also claiming that your PvP:ers no longer PvP (because they’re done PvE:ing?)

Wouldn’t it be the other way around?
The “noobs” that don’t care about PvP-rankings and honor but only about the rep-rewards are now exalted and have stopped playing, so now AV is filled with actual PvP:ers who are already exalted, but who do it because they want to PvP and rank up. So now when AV is actually filled mainly with actual PvP:ers, Horde started to dominate.

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You can get more honor per hour as Alliance by losing fast (10min or less) . Almost twice as much as horde winning.

And by the way, while we won 90% of AV the first day, we were getting 1k5 honor with Horde was constantly putting around 2k5 / 3k honor per game.

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alright im done with this time to quit

the issue isn’t that alliance players are all particularly derpish - there are an equal number of idiots on both sides, the issue stems from the faction imbalance and the difference in queue times…

because allies have instant queues and horde often have to wait a significant amount time to get in game, the outlook for each faction is different:

horde have to try and make the most of each game because they know getting into the next game will take time.

whereas alliance know that they can get into the next game instantly

so horde are more likely to extend the length of the game and alliance more likely to want to get it done and move on.

however there are some alliance who want to make the most of each game too, which means alliance players are often pulling in two directions where as horde are all pushing for the same goal, and that’s what screws things up mostly for alliance.

however over the last few days, ive noticed a change in alliance behaviour. people are starting to change tactics. people are starting to defend more, and try to take towers and such more, and I think the game will start to even out a bit.

personally I try to get as much honor as i can per game now.

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Alliance starts to adapt as well, had a few games yesterday where alliance started definding balinda with hubters and mages which delayed us a bit, but we still killed her. All while alliance did not manage to kill our middle boss. They ended up below 1k bonus honor. Be more focused with your attacks. Then you will see success again.

One week ago:
-alliance: horde sucks we win AV, you are just good in wpvp 10vs1

Today (horde adapted)
-alliance : bhou AV is not fair, horde are cheaters, they défend and use backdoor.

Conclusion : alliance have always complained and cried since 2005

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