Back then we had battlegroups, based on forums at the time, some were more lucky with alliance win rates. One i was in, Rampage, was quite bad for alliance. Old av were quite balanced, after the nerf, it quickly devolved same we are seeing in classic now, lose after lose.
Are you a troll or really like that?
Horde is tryhard if they try their options to win AV?
Seriously how can I be butthurt about someone saying so stupid and illogical thing that im pondering whether to facepalm or laugh or do both at the same time 
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Are horde actually trying to win? All I see is 90% of the horde team defending, and even if they hold stormpike aid station for 10 minutes with 0 resistance they still canât kill Vann.
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Most alliance players are
A) Done with their rep farm and moved on.
B) Exclusivity playing in premades
C) Can not be arsed with turtle BGs.
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They didnât.
They changed the location of the cave for the first time in patch 2.4.0 (Burning Crusade) to further south, which is where it is now in retail. Also seems to be the one you think is the original place, which it isnât. Itâs where it is now in Classic which is the original place.
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Bullsh1t post. We dont win 100%.
90% of these âalliance qqâ thread are made by a bfa character, and there is a few which is clearly made by horde players as trolling.
And an alliance player didnt even have time to write down a simple sentence before the q pops while the horde player have plenty boring minutes between ques.
I quess itâs matter of perspective, for you itâs boring, for others it might be good time to go farm gold or whatevs. Anyone who has played classic in past 10 years as horde should have come customed with longer queues.
I for one would take that 10 or even 20min queue if it would mean high chance to win, instead of most likely lost 9/10.
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ill have to take your word for it. I donât have a horde character to test for myself. I just got that info from a post someone made here that showed horde spawning at a position that put them considerably closer to balinda than alliance are to galv
Alright reported for spamming based also on your previous posting history.
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And that poster is wrong as well.
Itâs true that horde is closer to balinda than alliance is to galv, thatâs how it was from the start. Galv to frostwolf keep however is closer than balinda to dun baldar. So the distance to run isnât really that different.
They didnât place the horde starting cave further south until patch 2.4.0 (Burning Crusade) which that posted assumed was the original place (which it isnât).
Not really that much of a difference when considering backdoor exploit plus there is almost zero resistance on that path except some low level harpies.
Hey its you who are tryharddenying the truth.
Horde tryhard exploiting backdoor to skip bridge and rangers.
Horde tryhard to recall when we are at drek.
Yet horde noobs lose bigtime.
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Reported again
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Lost my last 23 PUGs in AV though. If youâre not in an ally premade, which are the best kept secrets since I havent found a discord yet for it, itâs HELL.
With some luck you may kill galv first but then all your raid members want to do is cap some lieutenants and lose the game asap since every second the horde takes longer to win means a worse honor ratio apparently.
The downside of this loser mentality is horrid rep for those that want to get exalted.
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Yes, ally PUGs lose 95% of all matches. Source. My last week 
Horde defend, allies afk then slowly they win.
You lost in the early days because for horde it was better to lose too⊠Now with bigger queues itâs the other way around. Horde needs to win for most efficient ratio. Allies need to either win fast or lose fast. Even /afk out may be more efficient than stay in a match where the initial galv rush failed.
And one side wanting to win and another wanting to lose makes all the difference.
Itâs not even good honor for horde to turtle.
Those who turtle turtle for higher rep, not honor or they turtle cuz they want to have fun.
Many people who think horde wins because we are better or something misunderstand, Ive had many frustrating av games where we won and it was mostly because the ally side easily gave up or they didnt have enough healers or tanks.
EDIT: I dont know why but it seems like ally pugs has a real healer and tank drought. WHile horde always has that prot tank that still needs to grind rep
you need get honor from NPCs, sometimes players are in middle GY after wipe at galv and just running around. Thanks for few of you guys who always save some bonus honor 
Have you thought horde âturtleâ for sake of killing and nothing else?