AV preamdes and the Blizzard End User License Agreement

I don’t think the majority of the alliance players are happy that all rankers join premades and they are stuck in bad pugs that never win.

Personally I have not lost a single AV against an alliance PUG on my alt going to exalted the last 2 weeks.

You seem to want to ignore the “solution” you keep asking for as well, for some reason.

I’ll quote it again for you too:

May be call it “smart use of game mechanics”, why use bad words

Oh well your still having 100% win rate against pugs if only these pre mades would stop and you could have 100% across the board. Damn those pesky pre mades! And they would have gotten away with if too if it wasn’t for those meddling Horde.


When we Horde play, we have high rankers joining the pugs. Hardly no one is afk leeching, we are all motivated. Alliance pug are stuck with the worst and least motivated players when most rankers play premades.

It can’t be fun to be alliance and not exploit the AV queue right now…

I mean, do you think it’s an coincident the queues are so long? It’s obviously not fun for alliance that doesn’t exploit to play AV right now.

Because every single exploit is a smart use of game mechanisms. The definition of exploitative behavior falls under impact and circumstances surrounding it, such as not everyone being able to do it while it grants the select few a competitive edge. And it does grant a competitive advantage when only the Russian pool (both factions), and the Alliance faction (both EU and NA) are the only ones able to form premades.
So the answer is simple, to either filter out the manipulation of metrics or to just let full chaos reign and allow full premades to queue for it.

One could argue

is a reference to such things, but it’s the most they have said about it for years.

They deliberately don’t want to admit it’s a thing in clear language.

One can also argue this is also an attempt to “fix” the manipulation of the metrics, but as we all know it is highly ineffective.

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Aww that’s a load of hibbity jibbity bibbity swibbity.

Sorry, the kid playground is -> that way. 4chan is probably a place better suited for you.

Aww sorry I forgot to bring my serious face today to discuss issues that matter. Like defining what’s an exploit and what isn’t, it’s funny how these no good pre made expoilters aren’t getting banned for it because that’s what usually happens to exploiters right?

By that logic, botting is also allowed. Even though they might ban one person for botting, as long as they let someone else bot by not punishing it, it would mean under your definition that it’s allowed for that person.

Sorry, troll elsewhere, child.

No one is expecting anyone to get banned when Blizzard is so unclear about the rules.

Step one would be for Blizzard to clarify the rules and/or make adjustments for AV queues.

But people who bot do get banned.

People who was using auto clickers also get banned during the ban waves.

Try again.

Try again, kid.

Alliance haven’t been able to farm horde in every corner of world in p2, so all hordes exploied and have to be punished

Just because they haven’t banned everyone who is botting it doesn’t mean they are not monitoring them and getting ready to ban them during the next ban wave.

Botters do get banned and I’ve yet to see a single person who is in a pre made getting banned because of it.

Try again, gramps.

That’s a misunderstanding, that wasn’t a limitation by design. It was a social difference.

You’re just attempting to use clear sophistry to suit your narrative.

It doesn’t mean they will ban all the botters either. And according to your logic, them not banning a person for it means it’s allowed.

What you seem to be referring to is a lack of precedent next, but that’s not how you define rules. The rules are already defined, and it falls under its definition. Their lack of enforcing it doesn’t automatically mean it’s ok. That’s just a child’s logic.

I don’t want anyone to be banned for this. I want Blizzard to change the system.

I just want to see the reason why alliance should not be able to win in AV, since it is close to impossible without premade in current game situation.

Technically speaking, it’s very much possible. But player skill and impact will always be the determining factor in the end, and this is not something that can be addressed without rated matchmaking.