You have only made Straw Man arguments…
Do you know what a Straw Man Fallacy is?
My argument just prooves how blizzard operates. Its not a straw man argument. Its an undeniably fact that has been proven 1000s of times in a multitude of instances… you choose to deny reality to suit your pov, because it invalidates your opinions. Its pathetic
Yes it is. Here is the definition:
A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man ".
Ur saying its an exploit according to blizzz because feelings? Have you ever heard of the concept innocent until proven guilty?this is how blizz works. Until blizzard says its an exploit, it is not. end of argument/thread
It is not expressly authorized by Blizzard and it gives an unfair advantage. It’s by definition a cheat according to the Blizzard End User License Agreement.
My feeling are these:
My goal with this thread is to point out that premades in AV is by definition cheating, according to the rules. I’m not looking to get anyone banned or stuff like that, I just want Blizzard to make AV great again. Either make it not possible to premade in AV OR make it possible to premade in AV for both factions. Just allow 40 man raid, OR ONLY allow 40man raids (only allow premades, would force people into social realm premades).
By eula definition, it is an exploit yes. That doesnt mean blizzard considers it to be an exploit. Is it rly that hard to understand?
Saving that. Thank you.
Now, let’s discuss a solution.
Ignoring facts again
Do you have any ideas or suggestions?
Eula != blizzards stance
I will try again.
Do you have any ideas or suggestions?
Nothing to be done, atm blizzard does not consider it an exploit
Ok, forget about Blizzard for a moment.
Do you think it’s reasonable that only one faction can form large premades in AV?
Personally, I think it’s more reasonable that no one can form premades or that everyone can form premades. One or the other.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable
Care to elaborate how it’s reasonable that only one faction can form large premades?
Due to long queues for horde for av and wsg being signifcantly better honor for alliance, it is the only way for alliance to stand a chance at winning av. Without it alliance would never win av. Horde can still win against premades by turtling and forcing them to concede, because horde can afford longer games. Alliance pugs have 0 chance as they cant possibly hope to break a turtle
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So here is the thing. Alliance pugs never win AV because alliance have premades that suck up all motivated and geared players.
Also, wow, you really think Alliance are that bad?
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Without alliance premades, alliance wouldnt win either. It has nothing to do with being bad. Horde will litteraly 40 man turtle till alliance give up. Alliance could easily do the same, but then the game would never end.
Ehhh ok, so, hmmmm. Didn’t expect this comment. Damn, you really have low expectations for the Alliance faction. If we have a fair fight on equal terms, alliance would never win, this is your honest feeling?
Its not low expectations. Wsg is slightly better honor than av premades, but way better than pugs. The players from av premades would simply swap to premading warsong. The overall quality of pugs wouldnt change. Horde make better honor in av than warsong. Av horde pugs will always have more rankers and they will always have mentality of win no matter the cost because of long queues. While alliance will always just want fast games. You cant expect people playing av for rep/casual pvp to stand a chance against rankers.
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