Blood elves work with Orcs who rampaged through quel’thalas and forsaken, of whom a good bunch propably helped destroy silvermoon. I see no reason to not ally with the Amani. The other way around i see more problems. The Blood elves tought magic to the humans and are thus indirectly respronsible for the end of troll dominance in the eastern kingdoms.
(I think it’s really possible humans would’ve been whiped out in the long run without magic, or at least never colonized the southern part of the eastern kingdoms)
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And this is why I don’t think blood elves should have ever even been a part of the horde to begin with ![:upside_down_face:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/upside_down_face.png?v=6" ":upside_down_face:")
They’ll always be outsiders of the Horde lorewise, at least they have the nightborne now though.
Edit - and for those who ree at me over nightborne joining the horde. I say good riddance, neither of them will be accepted back into the Alliance once they realise how god awful the Horde is for them.
Without teaching magic to the humans, the blood elves would have been wiped out in the short run. 
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Never contested that statement^^
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They haven’t.
They have, just like, hmm, did the Horde lose a city…hmm, let me think. Why, so they did…
Source for that?
I think the Alliance needed a -little- something to balance things out. I think they may have went too far, killing Rastakhan and destroying most of the Golden Fleet and being described as ‘weeks away from victory’ even by Nathanos, may have swung things a little too far in the Alliance’s favour, but then, I’m not going to whinge about that, being on the losing side makes for good story sometimes.
Alliance needed a small boost because ultimately Sylvanas destroyed Undercity and not them. -BUT- and this is the point Alliance fans always ignore. The Alliance had already won. The Battle of Undercity was a loss for the Horde, the Alliance made it into the city, and all Sylvanas had left was her Scorched Earth policy. You use scorched Earth policies when you have lost.
So both sides lost a city, both sides lost many soldiers. The Horde Mega Weapon is pretty much one shotted by Anduin, and the Alliance get their Jaina ex machina floating ship with magic guns (Because one wasn’t enough!)
I can see why Alliance might feel a bit miffed that they didn’t get to destroy Undercity themselves, but hey, they -won-. You don’t have to destroy things when you win…
And that’s why I think the Alliance needed a little pick me up, in terms of a victory, Because Sylvanas won the War of Thorns and Destroyed Darnassus, whereas the Alliance won the War of Undercity but didn’t personally destroy Undercity.
So, Fast forwards to the actual content in BFA. Both sides are effectively equal at this point, both sides have set out to make an alliance with an incredibly powerful naval power, they -need- those ships, they’re vital! Both sides lost so many ships at Broken Shore that whoever controls the waves is likely to win the war.
The Alliance, after some initial mother/daughter issues get their fleet. Kul Tiras joins the Alliance, not only do they get their fleet, but Jaina can apparently summon them. Oh and did I mention the magic ghost ship?
The Horde, after some tense involvement in political chicanery in the Court of King Rastakhan, are making some headway, Rastakhan warms to them, Talanji obviously likes them. Then… Dazar’alor is attacked, the Alliance win, King Rastakhan is slain, the whole -Reason- the Horde went to Zandalar is pretty much destroyed, and in other news, even the most die hard of Sylvanas’ supporters, I mean her bloody boyfriend, has reached the conclusion that the Alliance is weeks away from utter victory.
I mean, the Alliance is quite clearly -winning- the War. And that’s Horde Bias?
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You do realise that from the start of BfA rastakhans death was foreshadowed completely?
And his death serves the purpose of furthering Talanji’s character and plot?
It was always going to happen. Deal with it.
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I mean, we both know that’s not gonna happen.
edit: Why is this listed like a reply to Anaery? What the hell Blizzard?
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Ermm, Yes, I realise that, and I think it was a neat way of redressing things, I don’t have to ‘Deal with it’, I’m not whinging about it. Just stating it happened…
I doubt it will, I doubt it will, but that is where the -story- stands at this point.
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To be fair, I am in shambles over old Rastakhan. I didn’t wanna kill him.
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Don’t start with this logic.
Should Night elf player just shut the hell up about their loss because it was part of some ongoing narrative too? A loss is still a loss.
No amount of meta knowledge can change that.
And I’ve met quite a few that would’ve rather kept Rastakhan and remove Talanji.
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It sounded like you weren’t happy about it to me tbh.
Also, yeh it won’t happen we all know something will happen in 8.2 that will completely screw over the Alliance in a big way and the horde will be stronger DAN EVA, Sylvanas will do something or multiple things that are completely horrific, Baine will Whine, And Sylvanas will survive the full expansion.
Enjoy my pessimism
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People, why are we so mature today? It doesn’t feel like a WOW forum. Someone start crying about bias asap, there’s still time to get back to our old ways!
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Are you kidding me?
That’s like the best thing ever!
As far as I’m concerned Talanji is amazing.
Also it isn’t that Teldrassil was lost, or that it was burnt, or the whole war of thorns occouring. I was fine with that.
We have established MANY times that the reason people are annoyed about it is because of the WAY it was done. The war of thorns story and burning of teldrassil was beyond ridicoulus and unsatisfying. That’s why people hated it.
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I have a soft spot for him. Don’t tell the High Commmand, I will do what needs to be done.
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Rastakhan was showed as a blind fool. Many Zandalari just switched to Zul, because they don’t trusted their King. Why someone would prefer him?
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Because we like normal and likeable characters rather then Superpowered prophets and Marry Sues?
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We’re going to dab on these ugly Trolls!
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Exactly, while Talanji’s actions and decisions literally saved Zandalar and Rastakhan sat in denial about political corruption and blood trolls.
Even at the end he was more bothered about getting revenge and killing Zul than trying to stop that big a*s C’thrax in the background attempting to destroy the seal. (Although god knows how he could’ve done so)
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At the risk of raising the ire of Troll fans I am actually ambivalent about Rastakhan, if either he or Talanji died it would be all the same to me. Actually, from a narrative point of view, Talanji’s death would probably have hit me in the feels more, we work with her a lot, I mean, we freed her.
I don’t know…I mean Blizzard did say that this expansion would see the Faction War ended for good. I don’t personally know how they will do that and keep both sides happy, but that is what they said. I agree, I think Sylvanas will survive the expansion, however I do not think she will be Warchief by the end of it.