my schedule doesnt fit with guild raids and i dont wanna get carried as im not a noob so i like to host myself a pug with decent ppl and do the raid in a time that is convenient for me
when you do a raid of people with no green/gray parses remind the mechanics and trow a few markers and pings everything is pretty smooth usually. The weakauras released for the raid help you enough that i dont see why would you pay for boost unless you dont wanna play the game in two weeks
I read on their page when I downloaded addon something like they were tired of people constantly trying to DIY this addon shadily, so they decided to officially manage it.
So seemingly the demand was high enough for some to try and fiddle with their tools.
My schedule also dosent fit with Raiding. So I dont raid. That is my conclusion to this debacle. I will eventually buy a boost for Gallywax only because his trinket is OP. But thats about it.
Why a boost? Cause you log in at a designated time. They port you in. You AFK for 5 min. Get the Loot. Move on with your life. As oposed to spending 3h of my afternoon wiping with pugs.
I find that sad. Because people that have no idea about what the WLogs statâs mean will abuse it to oblivion.
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gallywix trinket is only good for raid so you can skip it if you dont wanna raid
I like raiding i dont mind progressing a boss with pugs if i dont have to replace people every pull, i spent some time progging gallywix heroic but eventually managed to build a good enough group to kill it in 1-2 pulls for my two kills so far
You are right. Not Gallywax. This guy: Sprocketmonger Lockenstock
He drops Mr. Pick-me-up.
Yeah, no. You can be the sole target for a mechanic one after the other and there is nothing you can do about it. Thereâs not even a small chance for that, happens all the time.
Unless the addon only shows the aggregated stats from 10+ runs on the same key, then the data is invalid.
Regardless, in warcraftlogs for M+, you get score points based on how much time was left when you finished key and how many deaths happened, only these group-relevant metrics.
Score points donât care for personal damage, or any other âtraditionalâ metrics related to single player or mechanic.
InB4 someone says it is not true - I play only DB in serious content, and I got high oranges in M+ across the board. If what you say was true, I should be scraping grays and green cause there is no way I am out-performing numerically Sanlayn Blood DK when Blood Beast drops the mic.
Plus all the times run goes south and I have to get creative to survive and lead group to success.
Sure. Then what is the difference between RIO and that metric? Cause last time I checked in WoWLogs is kinda similar.
But my beef comes when people look at WCLogs of Raids to judge M+ for example. Or look at M+ parses instead of the score.
People like you understand what WCLogs does, its purpose, what it measures and what its good for. But I am not sure if everyone makes good judgements like you.
If I am searching for PuGs in higher keys Iâm using logs and there are some things to consider:
- I donât decline people for having one or two grey parses out of like 8-9 bosses. Things can happen.
- I decide on the required parses depending on the content they ran and apply for
I canât really predict their mechanical abilities, but I can at least judge if they are basically capable of doing the required amount of damage. Someone who does 300k DPS at 650 GS in a raid will not suddenly discover his rotation in m+. On top of it, I check raid parses as itâs their own performance. Unless they did account sharingâŚ
With all that in mind I had my experiences with friends who invited via Rio and I who invited via raid logs I had the experience that most high parsing players were also very good at mechanics and mostly nice players, while a lot more people invited for Rio werde toxic and bad players.
Thatâs my personal experience.
I do know that not everyone has the mindset of first considering the actual requirements before using those tools⌠But to be honest: I want them to use all they have so Iâll never end up in a group with them. Those guys are usually the toxic and whiny players that nobody wants to be around, so⌠Let them filter themselves.
For M+ it does just seem to function exactly the same as the default score does. After what you said I looked myself up on Warcraft logs and it is just showing purple parses which just seems to be based on key level done.
People can already see what key levels Iâve done with the default scoring system making it seem pointless for M+.
Exactly this
You mean be so normalised itâs not viewed as a problem anymore?
Thatâs an opinion to hold, I guess.
I think it would be problematic if people are holding off on picking qualified people (like 2500 rating for a 10), in favour of picking overqualified people. In my experience thatâs not currently the case. Sure, the key holder might not pick the 2500 guy, but thatâs because thereâs a 2800 guy applying, not because heâd rather wait for someone better.
The score system has simply become a better measurement than the ilvl system we used to have. Having easy access to logged data means we get an even better system than the score system. Thatâs all it is, a better way to make informed decisions, rather than blindly trusting that someone hasnât been carried before.
Worst case scenario it will lead to people affiliating with others of similar skill, rather than bad players getting carried by better players.
This reminds me the âYou need 10 years of experience for this intern positionâ meme 
No thanks.
Not opposed to making a queue system, but it should not remove the options we have now with manually forming groups.
I believe the issue is not logs or parses themselves being available but the fact that it will show glaringly on your screen the moment you signup for a run.
Its true that people who will want to check log parses, can easily do it now already but imagine scenario where you see a signup with a descent rio, but bad raid parses? EVEN if you didnt care about them before, having lets say, green parses glaring at your screen will tend to bias people against them.
Its the same scenario about applying for a job. Compare with the interviewer for example who knows that the person applying been jailed before versus somebody who doesnât.
The guy automatically is fighting an uphill battle because of the âwas jailedâ brand cause people automatically assume the worst about themâŚregardless if the guy is a changed man and was jailed for some stupid teenage stuff.
Not allowed to play with friends? I veto.
Thatâs basically how the game already is for me. I got my own CB +10 going in about 1 minute yesterday even though my best run was an untimed +7.
Too many DPS are competing for too few places in too few groups.
And then you get rage posts on forums where some people believe that you owe them an invite to your key. 
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