Honestly I have not logged in for weeks at this point the general feeling of the game for me is not there, I’ve already cancelled my Shadowlands pre order and will most likely stick to single player games during my free time because this game and all its requirements to enjoy have gone elsewhere.
While I agree running High lvl stuff you need confirmation of the player you are looking into the lower lvl stuff is being abused by it.
Dude but no one is claiming that ahole do not exist, but you should not let yourself be influenced by that.
People doing keys atm are few because we are going towards the prepatch, and less people are interested in that and forming groups now may take a while.
Making your group usually work during the exp cycle, now we are like 10 or so days away from prepatch, people do other things.
I am sorry you wasted a lot of time, but is not others fault.
You are in a guild, why not ask them to do keys with you? No one help?
I appreciate that, I only joined the Horde for a friend but he’s barely online a few people help but not the right compositions, my bf’s a healer but tanks are our biggest issue and when we’ve tried in the past because the tank gets into a tizzy with a dps or they try and pull too much they just up and leave just making the whole run pointless and the groups generally just fell apart after that.
I have not had much luck at all in mythic plus with this expansion and RIO just left a bad taste in my mouth, my bf has pretty much quit the game and my friends barely log in anymore.
But don’t worry I’ll be gone soon and you won’t have to worry about grouping with the likes of myself.
Curiously, do past achievements account for nothing?
I have most ahead of the curves, I was mainly a MM hunter in those times but during MoP I did the green fire quest and I have done mage tower when it was relevant… Im just so confused on how im seen as a bad player. 
If you still want to try some keys I can tank,
i don’t do keys on this since may but i will gladly help when i will be done with rl chores.
Just to show that people that like to do keys are not aholes by definition.
I am never happy when someone leave the game, but you can’t come in calling people names because they like to play a game and expect people to just say “yes you are right we are lonely aholes nerds with no irl things to do”.
There are some people like you described, but if i put up a key in the group finder i get ton of dps applies within few seconds.
I don’t pick you not because i hate you or because I am an ahole, but simply because there are others that are already experienced in that and this simply put them in a better position over you.
There is nothing personal or hateful in that choice. I don’t say things like “look at this pleb” while inviting someone else.
You are fighting others for the wrong reason.
Again, sorry to hear you are leaving the game. My offer still stand ^^
I was specifically aiming at anyone if Im honest Im generally not a horrible person or so I like to think but when someone get’s me going I say things I dont mean and there’s plenty of people looking to wind others up especially in this thread, I’m a huge nerd myself been a gamer for going on 20 years now.
Honestly as of late it feels like theres alot more.
I appreciate the offer but honestly, I think I’m done with WoW past and future achievements will not prove my capability as a player.
I don’t know i tend to not really bother with bs people say to me. Having tanked my way to KM in pug i have see pretty much everything lol.
Pug was never a funny environment to be in generally, I can’t really say there is more or less toxicity.
People get toxic even while leaving, in dung you can do while sleeping.
I would not say it does not count.
But people won’t really go there and inspect your FoS to see if you have good old achievement because they will simply invite the next hunter on the list with 2k score that is showed by the addon.
I mean, it is kinda logical if you think about it.
Old achi means you are a good player, but is this person experienced with the new dung?
People simply don’t wanna risk it, that is why community is important.
I would suggest you to give wow another chance, see how different things will be during next Season.
You will have 0 problems finding or creating groups.
You ever tried doing an M0 and making a group with your own key?
That is only for “special snowflake pathetic sweaty nolifer neckbeards”.
It should be the other way around you wanna use it you unhide it, forcing users to give away personal info like e-mail just to hide something is outrageous and dumb
you got to remember how is the mythic+ group market atm.
see, a tank with his own key is like a 10/10 hot chick on Tinder.
within seconds of listing the group there are many DPS applications pending.
Obviously the tank will pick the most attractive ones. Aka 2k io, good exp, good ilvl, good class.
If you’re out of luck of joining grps, you need to make your own.
WoW has always uad some kind of addon to help players themselves do things like Raider. IO. I saw some people earlier in the thread say the issue is not the addon, but how it is used by some. And that is correct.
I was initially a little meh about it myself as well because I had no score(I still don’t I think cus I didnt install/use it, so I don’t know how it works) but my solution was simple. I just did/do M+ content with my friend group instead! Works wonders and have been progressing nicely, albeit a bit late into the expansion, but it’s at our own pace for fun, and got the Seasonal keymaster Conqueror yesterday which we’re happy with 
If people want to use things like Raider. IO to try and find people they think are fun or good for their raids or key pushing, it’s up to them. Nobody is entitled to being invited to content or a group, and if you are struggling to get into groups, make some yourself either alone or with friends!
That’s fine. You can play with other people who also didn’t sign up for it.
But don’t demand to play with players who do want this system and did sign up for it. They have the right to say no to you based on any criteria they see fit.
People using Google, Facebook, Windows and whatnot and they are worried that some third party addon, that only takes in-game data that is made publicly available by Blizzard themselves, might compromise their privacy. Brilliant.
It’s the expansion age problem nit RIO. In Legion by now you would need Keystone Master to get into +2. And much less players play and even less is still progressing so it’s a bad experience.
I understand the feelings of players who dont like rio - beeing judged by a third party website and declined.
But i dont get why you blame Rio. You guys do understand that the data is provided by the blizz API, right? It is the exact same as inspecting your runs manually. It is the same API call - No matter if its Rio or armory.
Ban Rio - OK. I will check your runs in the blizz armory and still decline. Remove the info about the runs - i will check your achievements and/or gear and still decline. Remove armory - i will inspect your charakter and still decline. Rio is nothing new - i raided Icecrown with gearscore and pugged Burning Crusade heroics with gear check infront of the auction house.
I dont like the argument “give us a chance and see” either - because thats the wrong content for that - i dont want to give someone a chance or try - i start a competetive run for experienced players. A lot of ppl seems to forget this. High keys and high arena queues arent for fun while playing - the fun here is to succeed in a competetive environment.
I didnt push a (low) rio of 2.550 for fun - i did it for gear, competetive gear. I did not push Gladiator for fun while playing but for this ugly drake as symbol of skill, a reminder how i dominated 560 teams until i climed high enough.
For this content i need partymembers capable of helping me. You cant avoid boosted ppl but unexperienced ones.
If its a low key but i have experience i dont want to give someone chances either - i want it done asap. Bring me an alt of yours as long as the main has the experience i want. For learning and chances you can find a guild, communitys or like minded people.
You need to understand that this isnt an insult - its a way to find players on an equal level. Also you need to understand that rio is not new. Its the same as the gearcheck infront of the auction house back in Vanilla.
Does it suck that you get declined that way? Yes. Would it change without rio? No.
Grab your own lvl 0 key and pugg it - choose who you want.
You should be able to disable the API in your battlenet profile no need to register at Rio.
And pls stop this no life aeguments - my arena partners have wifes, a full time job and one to three kids - they are still Gladiators and have the raid and keys done.
They should add more stuff to it. Blizzard should make us able to log the damage people have received and stuff.
It’s so absurd doing a key on +15 and not having to do any healing at all pretty much and you end the run at 27k hps overall and then you go do a +11 on an alt and you end the run with 60k hps.
I would not allow any program like this to even be ingame some to tsm and so on… it breaks the true thing of an mmo what’s the point if ppl just look at numbers… numbers mean nothing most of the time .
Then i will look at your achievements or your gear or simply view your last runs in the armory. I will have the exact same information about your experience even without rio.
Why should i team up with players without experience in an competetive environment?
rio shows much more than just a score, i expected people would have realized this by now
what u guys propose is exactly what u are against, ur armory only shows the highes key completed (which you cant diferenciate boosted players)
while rio shows how many keys of a given braken u completed in time and ur best run for said key.
also, make your own dam grp for ur own key
I say the same.
it is only used by people who thinks they are cool.